RIP Neil Armstrong

MOONMAN

so he was basically a good bureaucrat

instead of what, an organic farmer or martin luther king?

most teachers are good bureaucrats, as are nurses, you going to shit on them next

So much of me doesn't want to feed the troll...espeically in this thread on this day but I have been so sad for hours and then to see you say all this crap, goddammit Matt, you are so full of shit about this whole subject that it's personally offensive to me.

Maybe on a social and political level the moon landing and the 1980 US hockey team are similar, but if that's the only lens you're going to view it through then you are insane. The only way those two feats are similar is if the Hockey team had to invent the game of hockey, create the wood itself for their hockey sticks because such a material didn't exist before they played, and then if the stadium they played in ran the risk of losing oxygen at any given moment and or bursting into flame.

If you don't personally care about space exploration that's one thing, but don't come in here with your bullshit handwaving and try to imply that Armstrong and the Apollo 11 mission didn't achieve something scientifically remarkable. It was an inarguable FEAT and you should get over yourself.

you post a lot on i love nfl huh

also winning a game of hockey would have to be an eternal human aspiration (except for matt p)

many philosophers would argue that as a mutual appreciation of athletic beauty, the olympics are one of the highest achievements of human civilization

OH BUT CREDIT CARD COMMERCIALS

Wow, more cuntitude than I expected on this thread.. I really can't thing of anything more technically complex and demanding of a humans bravery than travelling 250,000 miles to a hostile environment with no certainty that they could return safely. I'm just about the generation that remembered the Apollo missions as something inspiring and wonderful and smdh at anyone who demeans that achievement.

i started free-form writing a week ago, asking myself questions and trying to be as real as i can cuz i've got issues. does writing help you? how about, say, recording yourself. i.e. what's the best way to look at problems under a clear light so u can start untangling them. what do you think??

― bind music up, scratch my discs up (Matt P), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:03 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

troll ilx

― jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:04 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

peas in a pod there. fucking glue sniffers giggling outside a dairy queen.

for real though a little depressing to think at least one of those two is an adult irl

lamp's more adult than you'll ever be unfortunately

probably not the one dabbling in free form writing and trying to be real as he can. unlike that bureucrat neil armstrong.

haha whatever

'unfortunately'

why did you use the word 'unfortunately' there?

good "humble" bureaucrats are cool they just don't usually inspire 500+ rip threads.

xp because i like you

"the best way to look at problems under a clear light so u can start untangling them? free form writing and keeping it real bro." - karl popper

so he was basically a good bureaucrat

― ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:12 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk what this is beyond PFFT PEOPLE DOING THEIR JOBS but yeah like good for him he was good at doing his job. your 'what's to admire about getting a man into space' is profoundly lolworthy.

-i guess the earth pictures tease at the possibility of a transformation.

philosophically generous of you, like if only they'd maybe shot at a better angle they could have teased something really deep out of it?

http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/apollo/img/earthrise.jpg

This cover seems even more apropos now... ;_;

http://www.andysowards.com/blog/assets/neil-armstrong-leaving-for-the-moon-time-life-magazine-cover.jpeg

anyway RIP moonman, you seemed like a decent guy who was probably more repelled by hero worship than anyone.

Much as you can get a clear sense of someone's character when you see how they behave when under duress, so too can you get a sense of how big of an IRL douche someone is by how they comport themselves in an RIP thread.

*farts*

http://www.andysowards.com/blog/assets/neil-armstrong-leaving-for-the-moon-time-life-magazine-cover.jpeg

brb

Feels like an appropriate time for this beautiful, beautiful song.
It's 4 in the morning, July in '69; me and my sister, we crept down like shadows
They're bringing the moon right down to our sitting room, static and silence and a monochrome vision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QEtyms1sGU

matt p did you know that you can be impressed by the sheer physical magnitude of an achievement and also at the very same time think that the forces that led to it were bogus? saying 'my god' at the blast of a nuke isn't the same thing as saying 'we should do that all the time'

this is so not the same as a nuke, though?! it couldn't be more different?!?

http://whalen.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/area51.jpg

51 HINT 51

51%

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/207184_464560156898334_1342280409_n.jpg

don't know if this is real

matt what do you think of this ish involving a famous german composer:

Well, what happened there is, of course—now all of you must adjust your brains—the biggest work of art there has ever been. The fact that spirits achieve with one act something which we in music could never dream of, that people practise ten years madly, fanatically for a concert. And then die. [Hesitantly.] And that is the greatest work of art that exists for the whole Cosmos. Just imagine what happened there. There are people who are so concentrated on this single performance, and then five thousand people are driven to Resurrection. In one moment. I couldn't do that. Compared to that, we are nothing, as composers. [...] It is a crime, you know of course, because the people did not agree to it. They did not come to the "concert". That is obvious. And nobody had told them: "You could be killed in the process." (Stockhausen 2002, 76–77.)

btw no one died when neil armstrong and his buddies landed on the moon, no one was killed in the process

or: ppl going to the moon was literally spectacular

well we are the society of the spectacle so

The Kennedy Museum & NASA put together a great website for the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, it's still up and running & worth checking out.

You can go through all stages of the mission with mission control audio the whole way through (even more fun if you do it with headphones on :D ), tons of photos and film from all the various stages. Good stuff

www.wechoosethemoon.org

no i feel you, that stuff wows me too and space is cool, seriously xp

if only we could all be cool bro

it was real

basically i reserve the right to be able to say 'holy shit man lands on fucking moon' and not be castigated for not staying on message about all of the bad things in the world. also the guy that was the first guy there died today, and if that gives some people a reason to pause and think 'we could be doing better, cooler things than letting poor people die and killing people with robots' then i am a-ok with it

like if we are the society of the spectacle, at least give 'em better stuff than IEDs and crowd shootings

Matt P & dylannn:

http://i.imgur.com/Tnr5r.gif

grousing about the wastefulness of space exploration is why our kids are terrible at science, btw

I'd agree with that.

canks was banned for less than this
we put a man on the moon so that our generation could listen to moonwave

ilx: we worship this hero
matt p: you would certainly revolt him as much as you revolt me

The space race was a big enough endeavor for different groups of people to exploit it different ways, but the engineers and scientists and rocket builders and astronauts and flight crews and cafeteria workers and janitors and gift shop employees and everyone who wasn't an elected official or a conspiratorial douchehammer realized that the purest purpose of reaching another heavenly object, one that no human in the history of history had ever stepped foot on before, was the most amazing thing that had and likely will ever happen (until we find another form of life).

ffs, going to the moon isn't just like driving to a fucking rollercoaster park 300 miles away.

what was cankles banned for?

he made an offhand joke on the alex chilton rip thread. tbf chilton did make power pop.

Something hilariously surreal about this whole thing: Pres Nixon addresses the quarantined Apollo 11 astronauts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0B-loHHTM&t=4m24s

That line where he tells them that he made a date with their wives; nice awkward moment there, Tricky

it's amazing that the man's natural modesty and understatement (his contention that going to the moon was just his job) is being used against him (that he was merely a "bureaucrat").

boy, america has changed a lot between 1969 and now.

Hmm that doesn't seem to want to play

Try again. Start it at around 5 min for the arrival of Nixon etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0B-loHHTM