Hurley throws like a girl.
― WmC, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Charlotte is actually Aaron from the future.Everything is taking place in Hurley's mind.Charles Widmore is Satan/an Alien.Aliens are somehow involved a la Indiana Jones 4.The Island is Alive and eats people.
Please add more Lost developments that you fear happening.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Hooded Time Lady's charts reminded me of that weird blog someone here posted a link to with all the longitudes & latitudes and dark matter moon stuff.
― President Keyes, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.timecube.com
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
They better explain all the stuff about Walt, or else I'm going to be mad.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Am I correct in thinking I saw Abbadon at the door as one of the cops, asking Cheech if Hurley was home (when he and Sayid were hiding there)?
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
or did I just fall prey to the "white people can't tell other races apart" trap…? Must re-watch episode.
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yah, I don't think that was him.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I had a party for the premiere so there were a lot of non-TV distractions and sometimes people talking over other people.
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
It would seem like Hurley would've noticed that as he ran up to them though, right?
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't Charlotte say "Walt, Walt's missing" or something close just before that first time-displacement nosebleed thing?
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Lt. Daniels knocked on the door with fake police creds, which Hurley was too far way to see, but probably wasn't with the real police stakeout, which came later.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
During the recap it was amusing to see that Ben's dad = Uncle Rico
― calstars, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought one of the cops was Abbadon at first, too. Really tall skinny guy. But I guess not...
― Not the real Village People, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
u mean laszlo
― lemon dropsy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 January 2009 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I re-watched the episode and I noticed that they do a really good job of never showing the guy's face (even when Cheech drives by and waves, you only see his partner's face) and the guy's frame is a duplicate of Abbadon's. I do believe that if Hurley had gotten close enough to see him he would have said something, though.. he's not credited in the episode on IMDB or Lostpedia so I guess I just have to chalk it up to a mistake. Alas.
Also in rewatching the episodes, I wondered if the reason Sun wants to kill Ben is because Jeremy Bentham did visit her, and told her his murder of Keamy is what blew up the freighter. For this to be true, though, Jin would have to not show up on the island, or Locke would see him? Maybe Jin will get sent to another time and thus manage to avoid Locke. Can you tell I want Jin not to have died? Hah.
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 24 January 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Sun is totally working with Ben.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe! I love this show.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season5/5x02a/5x02-thelie-215.jpg
okay, when I rewatched it was on an ipod screen so I only saw his face in the shadows, I lose
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Clearly what this series needs is an action sequence where Sayid, Ben and Jack break Hurley out of prison.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe that guy is Abaddon's body double. I also thought it was Sawyer running the camera in the Dr. Candle scene but on second look it was just a dirty hippie.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
damned dirty hippies
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
did we talk about this in the s4 finale:
Widmore: are you here to kill me?Ben: we both know i can't do that
Props to the producers for having Daniel lay out the "rules" in this episode. In that context, this leads me to believe that the Ben-Widmore scene actually takes place in the past somehow.
― mitya, Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Locke isn't really dead, he's only playing dead to get them back to the island. He was bit by one of the medusa spiders that the models from S2(?) took when they were buried alive.
― redmond, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link
That sounds like the sort of emotionally satisfying conclusion that television writers of this caliber generally reach for when wrapping up their most important character and plot points.
― Clay, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link
It will be interesting to see how he dies. The implication at the moment seems to be that he won't be dead if they can all get back to the island. A couple of questions:
- Will the island actually "resurrect" him? (Because he died off-island he isn't actually dead.)- Does the time limitation relate to only one particular moment when they can get back, or is the issue that if they don't get back before then Locke will really be dead.
― mitya, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i thought the first scene of the first episode was pretty goofy. "sure, mack, travelling thru time, whatever you say pal"... i mean that was pretty bad, good faraday reveal aside. and the guy who plays chang is a really terrible actor.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i also thought the charlotte thing meant she was pregnant but the constant thing makes more sense i guess
― s1ocki, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the guy who plays Chang is hitting just the right notes, with the bizarre kind of character he's supposed to be.
― Nhex, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I think we're talking about different sets of rules: the facts of time travel vs. the rules of engagement.
I don't think Charlotte's problem is constant-related. Everyone who had that issue also was experiencing the time-jumping phenomenon that afflicted Fisher Stevens on the boat. Charlotte isn't experiencing that.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Sunday, 25 January 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link
she sort of is. she's both mentally and physically time-jumping whereas the guys on the boat were just mentally time-jumping.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link
"every other film where nosebleeds=minddeath"
BUTTERFLY EFFECT man
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
it has to be something similar to Desmond since they give her the exact same creepy nosebleed. also worth noting the builder dude in the cave at the beginning of the episode who is carted off has the same bleeding from his nose. maybe it's just exposure to electromagnetic energy or whatever it is that causes the time lapses...
anyone speculated yet as to who got the court order to get the blood tests from kate and GOOBER?
― Local Garda, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link
also just some of the general time issues are really confusing...if Locke is shot by Ethan in the past, then how does Ethan now know him in the future (ie in Series 1) Or what "future" was that if Ethan would only gain the memory as a result of the current time travel?
― Local Garda, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm guessing this time flipping stuff is what Jacob's List was about-- perhaps some of the 815ers were seen in the past (by Jacob?) doing important things.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 January 2009 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
good interview with damon lindelof: http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/01/lost_damon_lindelof_qa.html
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i wonder if that episode where Locke dreams about Horace Goodspeed building the cabin - the time-looping, and Horace's nose-bleeding - was hinting at something. i thought that the nose-bleed there was referring to Ben causing the purge but maybe not. that dream led Locke to the cabin where Christian, not Jacob, told him he had to move the island.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I read some speculation somewhere (here? apologies if so) that the reason Ben may have been so callous when Keamy had Alex at gunpoint is because he'd already travelled to a future where Alex still exists and thus "knew" she couldn't be killed (but then the rules changed.)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
ooh that's a good one.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it's much more straightforward than that, and Ben and Widmore just had some sort of 'don't kill the children' pact that Widmore/Keamy then broke. I just don't think Alex is that significant in that they clearly capped her, Rousseau and Carl to keep the cast numbers down.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link
didn't he fairly clearly act callously to stop Keamy thinking killing Alex was worthwhile? and there was the whole gigantic ashen faced grief he suffered afterwards, plus vowing to kill Widmore's daughter. but yeah maybe he's just bluffing....a lot.
― Local Garda, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
However it's very possible that the apparitions of Taller Ghost Walt/Christian/maybe Claire/possibly the cabin are not ghostly apparitions but actually jumping around in time.
(xpost)
― Matt DC, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
― Local Garda, Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:06 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
my guess is that it's a ben thing - freak her out, make her flee, make her more amenable to going back
― s1ocki, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i think its sun
― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder why the Others always sent their only surgeon (Ethan) out alone to intercept or kill survivors of crashing planes.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
cos he got results damn it!
― Local Garda, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
that guy could kidnap pregnant aussies, kill steve/scott and hang charlie up on a tree all on his lonesome - dude is efficient.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
re: Alex
haven't seen that episode in a while but i got the impression that ben was pretty confident that keamy was bluffing about killing Alex.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post Efficient and dead. No back-up.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
he also repaired watches and cut keys
― Local Garda, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link