Who gives a flying fuck what's overrated and underrated?
"I saw Ride the High Country. I'd love it, but damn, not enough other people do."
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
Red River as a "gateway Western" makes a good deal of sense if the intention here is to force Stevie to like westerns, tho.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
I've not seen half, but since I plan to live to age 84 I'm right on track:
8 1/2, L’Atalante, Late Spring, Au hasard Balthazar, Mirror, L’avventura, Le Mépris, Battleship Potemkin, Ordet, Wong Kar-Wai, Andrei Rublev, Stalker, Shoah, Jeanne Dielman 23 quai du Commerce 1080 Bruxelles, Sátántangó, Journey to Italy, Pather Panchali, Some Like It Hot, Gertrud, Pierrot le fou, Play Time, Close-Up, Histoire(s) du cinéma, La Jetée.
I'd love to be able to see Singin' In The Rain for the first time! The 20 minutes of Persona that make sense are awesome and La Dolce Vita is fun if only because it provided so much pop imagery of Italy. In general this list skews boring/beautiful.
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
If you want to hasten the aging process, Stalker's the one to see.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe I'm revealing myself as Captain "All I Know About Cinema I Learned From The Canon," but I truly believe the overwhelming majority of the films on this list are way closer to beautiful than boring.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
xpost OK, Stalker is a little bit of both.
Great ending, I'll give it that.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'd love to be able to see Singin' In The Rain for the first time!
So true. For me, this is one of the very worst things about getting older.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
A lot of these are beautiful but I mean anyone who actually earnestly thinks La Dole Vita isn't a bloated snoozefest is totally fronting
I did like Stagecoach fwiw
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
I have never seen Singin' In The Rain! Maybe I should
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
xp wait until older really kicks in and everything will be new for the second time.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
really, I rewatched Solondz's Happiness recently and had forgotten 80% of it.
Did the #51-100 listing appear somewhere? Maybe Lubitsch & Sturges showed up there.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
le méprisjeanne dielman, 23 something something pierott le fouhistoire(s) du cinéma
― what makes you think its a pun (Lamp), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't seen Singin' in the Rain yet! TCM has it on the 23rd, will watch.xposts
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Probably won't ever forget Camryn Manheim tearing into that tulip sundae while talking about castrating the rapist doorman.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
Or, rather, dismembering him without touching "that."
Yeah, that's def one of the ones I haven't seen that I'm most looking forward to.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Seeing these films in theaters is clearly the way to go -- I should probably be more alert to screenings.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
Man this list makes me feel terrible about how much I haven't seen! I've only seen 14 of these.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I blocked out Camryn Manheim as much as possible.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Aren't you two guys in Chicago? What are the rep theatres like there?
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
I may be wrong, but it seems like a lot of those theaters around here have been more focused on "cult" stuff from the last 20-30 years than the older canon type stuff.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
haven't seen 23, don't feel too terrible about it
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
That's what Toronto's reps used to be like, then they all went out of business in the first half of the 2000s as rental stores ascended, before they started reopening in the past few years as primarily second-run houses. So mostly it's canon-type stuff at the Lightbox now, and documentaries at the Bloor. (xpost)
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
I love early godard but breathless is not a film I'd recommend to anybody unless they had an interest in film history
some entries on this list just seem like bowing to icons
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I think that's fair. The 11:30 AM weekend screenings at the Music Box are often a good bet, though.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Tbh though, I haven't paid attention since my son was born last year, my chances to go see movies in a theater are much less now.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
Have not seen 16 of these.
I was also ready to bitch about the fairly poor state of rep screenings here as opposed to some of the other places cited itt, but looking over the list now I see that many of the films on it I have seen (and some I haven't) I either saw for the first time or had the chance to see or rescreen in a theater over the past several years.
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
i've seen 31. most of the 19 i haven't are "foreign" films, including a number i'm embarassed to admit i've avoided over the years:
8½Battleship PotemkinL’AtalanteLate SpringAu hasard BalthazarMirrorL’avventuraLe MéprisOrdetShoahTokyo StoryBicycle ThievesJeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce 1080 BruxellesThe 400 BlowsLa Règle du jeuJourney to ItalyGertrudHistoire(s) du cinémaThe Battle of AlgiersSunrise: A Song of Two HumansUgetsu monogatari
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh man – what I'd give to watch The Rules of the Game or Sunrise for the first time.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
I try not to fetishize first screenings of anything, because a lot of my favorite movies were "meh" on first watch.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
True but not those two I mentioned.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
certainly the case with Tokyo Story though
love a lot of the films people are taking shots at itt. the searchers is fantastic, one of the most visually striking and flat-out entertaining westerns i've ever seen. i prefer bande a part to breathless, but the latter's still pretty damn great. la dolce vita is kind of exhausting, but that's clearly the point, and it's so spectacular, strange and colorful that my attention never wandered.
satantango is a chore though.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
I saw Rules of the Game a couple years ago. Good movie, but it didn't wow me or anything.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
Just looked at the upcoming screenings at the Siskel Film Center and the Music Box, and now I'm excited to catch Celine and Julie Go Boating in a couple of weeks.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
This is a good point -- I'm too hardwired to follow surface-level plot/text, and don't get into subtext, context and interesting technique until repeat viewings, though I'm trying to train myself to be a better film-watcher.
― Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
I only became comparatively "meh" on Tokyo Story when I saw some of Ozu's other variations and liked them more.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly my reaction, I can't see what I'm missing.
― don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
I'll take Early Summer over both TS and Late Spring, although I confess to using Wiki to remember which is which.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
love a lot of the films people are taking shots at itt
Down low.
Too slow.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
I've had films sneak up me over time, of course, but I do carry around in my head the overwhelming experience of certain first-screenings in my life: Taxi Driver, the two Godfathers back-to-back, the three Apus in a row, Raging Bull, On the Waterfront, Crumb, a few others.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
Late Spring is my pick, along with its reboot An Autumn Afternoon. Equinox Flower was another I remember liking a whole lot.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
Of the 49 I've seen, by far the one that leaves me cold is Le Mépris. Bad marriage on the Rivieria, zzzzzzzzzzz.
And after 2 viewings of Celine and Julie Go Boating, done with it as well.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
and The End of Summer.
As for The Rules of the Game it wears its mastery lightly, so I can see how on first glance it's amiable enough.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
My problem is that I so rarely watch things more than once -- I'm sure films I shrugged at would gain something upon repeat viewings, but there are too many movies that I haven't seen at all to catch up with. To preemptively answer clemenza, I'm not a Paulista, just a pragmatist.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
I think Paulistas are the Libertarian wing of the Paulettes.
― clemenza, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
And Armond is a member of the Tea Pauly.
― Eric H., Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
pauly vous paulette?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Paulista!: the legendary unreleased 4-disc concept album about film criticism by The Clash.
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
the apple is as rewarding as any film i can think of but is def a difficult watch imo, just wrt the first 20 minutes. i can imagine people turning off. what's satisfying is how the air in the room changes as this progresses, though, as the humour surfaces, as it becomes almost playful. really feeling your exemplary post btw so only being picky here.
― schlump, Thursday, 21 February 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link