"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

aw libby says hi was great

think I just hate Ana Lucia, haha

tugging max's heartstrings is easy

time travel pedantry--

• if when they move thru time they cant get to their camp anymore, why do their clothes come with them. also why does the zodiac. and the bullet in lockes thigh.

• when faraday talks to desmond why does desmond not remember until 3 years later. it would make more sense if he remembered on pennys boat.

• when desmond sees faraday why doesnt he remember him. from the army or whatever. and then remember him later.

i <3 ana lucia was psyched to hav her back

ana lucia is about a thousand times better than kate and jack and juliet frankly

• if when they move thru time they cant get to their camp anymore, why do their clothes come with them. also why does the zodiac. and the bullet in lockes thigh.

corny

wouldve been lol if they were all naked tho

when desmond sees faraday why doesnt he remember him.

this is the most important point I think. he had really met Daniel (at a REALLY IMPORTANT time in his life in the past) but they treated it like he was meeting him for the first time.

maybe that was desmond traveling back in time

i think thats all going to be waved away with some kind of "desmond is weird" which is fine by me i guess

lol at the end of the recap episode when the producers were all we are glad were entering a phase where we start to answer questions instead of ask them

yes but he's not following his credo to hurley of "whatever benjamin linus says, do the opposite"

I kinda thought Sayid first hated Ben, then worked for him, then at some point (that we haven't seen yet) broke with him and started hating him again

who is Ben's crew at the meat market? we're not supposed to know any of them right

the blonde woman behind the counter looked familiar.

If Libby cares so damn much why doesn't she come back and say hi herself?

FINALLY! downloading this shit took way too long - anyone know of a good t0rr3nt/r4pidsh4re/str3aming site so i can watch this earlier next week?

some thoughts:
1. time church lady = Faraday's mom, right?
2. I was LOL frogurt's wearing a red shirt then BAM fireball to the chest.
3. Ana Lucia was awesome, c'mon.
4. Desmond being special/different sort of explains a bit about "The Constant". Remember when we couldn't figure out whether or not that message "Desmond Hume will be your constant" had always been there or whether it had just appeared in 2004 and why neither Faraday/Desmond remembered each other? i think we know now - Faraday realized he had a new memory when he saw that message, which is how he knew Desmond was special. Des successfully changed the past.
5. Richard Alpert giving Locke the compass - "what item already belongs to you??" - from the dalai lama initiation episode?
6. Kate and Aaron scenes are truly annoying.
7. Miles totally talked to dead boar's ghost.
8. ugh at blatant setting up of Juliet/Sawyer shipping. Jawyer?
9. Time-jumps + ben saying they can never leave once they go back = adam and eve are so jack and kate.

1. time church lady = Faraday's mom, right?

yeah. also the lady who wouldn't sell Des the wedding ring in that one ep.

http://2.music.bigpond-images.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/3/XXL/Shotgun-Willie.jpg

thread needed a shotgun willie

5. Richard Alpert giving Locke the compass - "what item already belongs to you??" - from the dalai lama initiation episode?

aw shit good one

hey also did you guys catch in the catch-up when producers said 'sun thinks her husband is dead'?????

hahaha yeah. lol, spoilers.

instead of saying "and jin is tragically blown to bits" they said something like "and now Sun is torn apart believing her husband died in that blast"

adam and eve are so jack and kate.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:27 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah i just assumed this all along

the important thing on a narrative/character level is that sun *thinks* that jin is dead - it's the thing that drives her to go up against widmore and orchestrate a takeover of her dad's company.

― Disco/Very (Roz), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:25 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:D

they speculated that the stuff they had with them when the original flash happened follows them wherever they go through time - so i guess things theyre touching hop through time too? lockes bullet would imply that they can continue to gather things

ya didn't daniel say they had to go somewhere man-made? so if they entered a hatch would the hatch come with them the next time it flashed?

Technically, isn't the camp man-made?

So what's the deal with Alpert then? He isn't affected by the island moving?

x-post didn't Faraday just want to see something man made cos you know, nobody "built" a tree in 1968

he just wanted to go somewhere made made to figure out WHEN they were - prob they have to be touching stuff to take it w/them - ie they were in the boat their clothes were on them

alpert is not affected (meaning he is not transported during the time shifts.) he told locke next time he saw him, he (alpert) wouldn't know who he was.

he wanted to see something manmade just to gauge what time they were in I thought. not that it helped much

So what's the deal with Alpert then? He isn't affected by the island moving?

seemed like none of the Others were affected, in that group only Locke jumped in time

xposts

Alpert's an original inhabitant (like Ethan, Dharma dudes etc.) Seems like the time-jumps only affect Oceanic castaways and freighter ppl. xposts

crazy xposting sorry.

If the island is dislodged from time, why would it disappear?

could be the others that were around when the island went http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:4bVK-5JPpTGdMM:http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h212/mkalfus/How%2520to%2520Find%2520the%2520Island/IslandDisappears2.jpg are unstuck in time too and locke et al are just running into the past versions of them

desmond is dislodged from time. the island is dislodged from space. the castaways are dislodged from time and space.

in 2007 the island exists, it's just not where it was (near indonesia or wherever) anymore.

this makes it seem like the island is moving in space (jumping all around the ocean), not just time

http://lost.cubit.net/images/index/covers/5x02_dharmaComputer2-thumb-470x264.jpg

relative to the island the castaways arent dislodged in space tho - theyre just riding it around

yeah they're moving with the island, but also with time.

alpert is not affected (meaning he is not transported during the time shifts.) he told locke next time he saw him, he (alpert) wouldn't know who he was.

surely if locke went into the future alpert would know who he was? or why wouldn't he? (unless there's some reason for this that alpert just hasn't explained yet)

alpert is def cosmic

Enjoyed this:

http://www.thehousenextdooronline.com/2009/01/lost-thursdays-season-5-eps-1-and-2.html

i refuse to discuss alpert unless we return to calling him BATMANUEL

BATMANUEL MAYOR OF GOTHAM

My wife and I have a running guyliner or not argument re: Alpert.

i fell asleep during the stupid recap thing and woke up 20 minutes into the first episode. next thing you know, locke is being shot by ethan and time traveling. wtf?. i'm gonna have to watch it on abc's site, later.

lol my grocery delivery came just as the show was starting

Lindelof: When we first saw dailies of Nestor, we said, “We gotta talk to him about the eyeliner situation.” [But] he is completely sans makeup.

wonder where vincent is and if he's time-travelling too. That would be one confused dog.