broken arrow's entire plot is about a rogue nuke
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, but does it blow up?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link
This movie:
"Oh, here is my nuclear fusion reactor that someone LEARNED TO WEAPONIZE. BUt don't worry, we can FLOOD THE TUNNEL."
Right there I was like, ok, there's another few million of effects coming.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link
OK, now that I am better rested:
why was Bruce Wayne limping at the beginning?
how did a regimen of push ups and pulls up allows him to overcome a broken back and a full-on beat-down in the bottom of a pit?
how did penniless Bruce Wayne get from said bottom of pit through exotic foreign land - India? - and back to under-siege Gotham in less than 24 hours?
How did Miranda Tate pull such a crazy long con?
None of these things bothered me terribly, but it did underscore that this was just another "stuff happens on screen" sort of movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link
Limping = a fucked up knee, there's a doctor's appointment half way through the film (with one of the few jokes)
Mysterious Foreigner Tom Conti did some old school chiropracty on him + Iron Will of the Bat-Man = all fixed!
Bruce Wayne is not in this film played by Denholm Elliott.
Miranda Tate is League of Shadows! There is probably one in your office now, playing a janitor for the last 20 years.
I mean, you can accuse Nolan & Goyer of a lot of things, but not thinking through their scripts really isn't one of them.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
Was reading about making little actors look big in movies. This is pretty cool:
http://www.jbwebtv.com/index.php/articles/movies-tv-and-more/109-moviereshape
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
how many of nolan's movies manage to avoid having completely implausible 'long con' stuff
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, "Memento" is plausible, I guess. But yeah, good point.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
I also liked the I recognized like 50 actors in this, including a bunch of walk-on day players. They really went all out putting the b-listers to work.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:40 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I was thinking that with Tom Conti who I spent way too long trying to remember the name of when I was watching the thing, kept getting stuck with 'not Derek Jacobi'.Also the neat-scrubbed clean looking office boy type who I was thinking was the guy from Misfits but was actually the medical officer from Torchwood's 1st couple of series.Still thinking of the good orphan cop as the guy from 3rd Rock too. Probably ought to be better known as himself by now though?
& has Anne Hathaway done action before? Did enjoy her in this.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
batman fixing his Earl Campbell knees with a simple brace probably bugged me more than anything else in this movie. i always thought it would make sense for batman to turn into a broken down running back over time, but they bring it up and then forget about it. i mean are we meant to assume he's wearing the brace for the whole movie? why wouldn't Bane and his bros tear it off him when they're changing bruce into his complimentary pit o doom peasant rags. or did just wearing it once fix not having cartilage???
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
I liked how they gave Christian Bale grey streaks at his temples that made him look like George Hamilton.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
The movie takes places 8 years after the last one, right? So he's been limping the whole time? Because in Nolan's conception, Batman hasn't really been around that long, right?
Was wondering if it was a subtle (!) political dig, that even bankrupt and without funding, Wayne enterprises still had a robust weapons program.
Man, how many times was Levitt the lead cop arriving at the scene? Five or so? More? Hospital, airport, bar with cat woman ... guy got around in this flick.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
i love that you get guys like matthew modine, eric roberts, anthony michael hall, tom berenger popping up in these puppies. and then they go right back to whatever direct to video things they had on their plates
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
The prison was meant to be (plot-wise) in Mexico, I read somewhere.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
sure, why not
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
the idea of all the necessary steps i would have to take to see this - like, i'd have to put clothes on, and walk to the cinema, and buy a ticket, and consider snack and beverage options, and sit through the trailers - just seems impossibly daunting, risk-to-reward wise
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
Bane in the comix was meant to be South American too I think.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
"The Dark Knight Rises was gloriously the best moment of my life in a movie theatre. It stands alone, peerless in the pantheon of superhero movies."
So says some shmuck in a user review on metacritic.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
what a twat amirite
is tom hardy any good? i feel like the reason (well, the other reason) people latched on to ledger so much in the last one was that he seemed to have been the only person in the movie who'd been given permission to act. nolan seems to always end up with shitty over-naturalistic performances one hundred percent of the time and it's a really irritating fit with his scripts and his visual style. n.b. i am sure there are counterexamples (batvoice) but don't bother me with them
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
I love Hardy but you can't tell if it's him in this; dunno if that's a good or bad thing. He's certainly scary and mean and tough, but it could almost be anyone. Would want to watch this again and then watch Bronson again and compare.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
he is good. its not a centerpiece performance like ledger's, more like just a guy doing his job really well a la cillian murphy
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
i had a real problem with Hardy's Bane voice
― Number None, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, everyone he casts always does their job really well, it's just .... enhh
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
except maybe david bowie, predictably enough
like i said upthread, i dug the voice a lot. its silly, but its the kind of flourish that the movie needed more of.
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
but it just made Bane ridiculous to me, which removed any sense of menace from his confrontations with Batman. He never shut up either
― Number None, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
i thought he was ridiculous AND menacing, which is a great combo!
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
Mendiculous!
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
I liked Bowie in The Prestige! Closer to "Bowie playing Tesla as Bowie" of course.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Bowie playing Tesla as Bowie wearing David Brent's Hair
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
tbf i think the prestige would have worked equally well had the entire cast been brechtian mimes that couldn't act! that's why it's frustrating to see people, y'know, acting
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
"We have an eccentric fantasy Tesla in this movie" is pretty obv followed by "we have to cast David Bowie" imo
― Ówen P., Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Or Iggy Pop.
IMAGINE THAT.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
That's weird, no.
― Ówen P., Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needcoffee/uploads/2012/05/david-bowie-tesla.jpg
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't really down with The Prestige, but Bowie Tesla was a great source of entertainment
― Nhex, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think The Prestige might actually be my favorite Nolan movie. Having the punchline be "HE WAS TWINS ALL ALONG, IDIOT" is pretty LOL.
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
That is WHO HE IS.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
the prestige owns
― Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
Love the Prestige. The punchline is that Hugh has a scientific cloning device. Which I loved. I loved the total dip into fantasy. For better or for worse, Nolan makes movies that seem to be hyper aware they are movies.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
Nah that's the first half the punch line -- look at what I sacrifice! Then the second part hits and you realize that possibly cloning/dying is maybe not as bad as Bale's character living half a life the whole time
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
Em totally didn't recognise bale as the servant dude so she was literally blown-away at that reveal, whereas I'd clocked it was him the second he came onscreen.
Had no idea Bowie was going to make an appearance when we first saw it, and both went, "wait, wtf...? Bowie? No, surely; shit!" cos he was pretty much retired from music by that point as I recall. Had to look up tesla too cos I'd never heard of him so assumed he was made-up.
I keep syaing that all Nolan's films are super conscious of their status as films.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
Had to look up tesla too cos I'd never heard of him so assumed he was made-up.
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
honest to god what the fuck is wrong with you
hey I only know Tesla thanks to (a) the band (b) an old Jack Palance episode of "Ripley's Believe It Or Not"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol british
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
I've never come across a band called Tesla nor heard of that TV show, nor am I interested that much in the history of electricity and how the Americans stole it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
and that attitude is exactly HOW we stole it, pal
― j., Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
That and electrocuting elephants
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 26 July 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
Hey, what was with all the Batman hanging up his cape and cowl nonsense? Was the implication that Gotham was somehow 100% crime free? Since when did Batman not care about petty thieves and criminals?
Also, I can no longer watch Michael Caine without thinking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFIQIpC5_wY
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link