Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

(but YOU don't understand /unclesam)

Chase Mitchell ‏@ChaseMit

.@rushlimbaugh You should read up on Bane. He's an oversized drug-addict with anger issues who's been popular since the 90s. You'd love him.

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haha, awesome

burn

so, Occupy-bashing?

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/18/batman_hates_the_99_percent/

good lord

been wondering about this, though i haven't seen TDKR. in TDK, the citizenry must be lied to in order to keep them moving in the right direction (as conceived by the superrich and engineered with the aid of government). looks like the sequel will concern what happens when that benevolent guidance slips.

you mean like that part where the people ended up making the right moral choices on their own, despite manipulation?

Oh, but this movie is going to make election year a traet!

you mean like that part where the people ended up making the right moral choices on their own, despite manipulation?

yeah, exactly

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2012/07/are-you-not-entertained.html

kenny sorta-kinda weighs in on the Rotten tomatoes thing

not sure he understands this specific scenario as much as he thinks but otm regardless

framing this as readers vs. "critics with whom they disagree" isn't right really since generally speaking the people that are mad haven't even seen the movie, they're just fans of the franchise. which is the craziest thing to me, how can you be that defensive about the advance press for something you haven't seen yet?

bc anticipation >>> results every time, if the anticipation is big enough

nerds spend 2 hours watching the movie and like two months wetting their pants over the idea of watching the movie

bad reviews injure the fantasy

nerds spend 2 hours watching the movie and like two months wetting their pants over the idea of watching the movie

not that different from music critics tbh

or movie critics!

Harry Knowles is disappointed. Um, too bad?

nerds are nerds, and they come in many varieties, but the state of collective, sustained, internet-enabled frenzy in which self-defined "geek culture" (or w/e) awaits its totem films does have its own special character.

btwn Knowles hating it and Schager approving, I'm about 99% sure I'm going to like this.

no way dude Harry called BULLSHIT.

god, harry knowles is a terrible writer

god, harry knowles is a terrible writer

(you had to know that was coming, so I'm going to assume that was an alley-oop)

After the film, I went out to dinner with some friends that attended and the aggravation with the film was felt throughout the table.

i guess that line's not that weird. maybe you can say "throughout the table". i just laughed cuz i imagined the table itself like shaking with inarticulate rage over nolan's desecration of batman.

tbf James Hetfield usually seems pretty aggravated

Ebert liked the last 2, isn't sold on this one. leaving aside the ones who seemingly HAVE to say something nice this is basiclaly getting 'mixed' reviews then.

He gave this 3 stars. Andy over at Salon loved it.

hahaha wait

"hmm, I'm not sure about this one: 3 out of 4 stars"

NYT review was pretty glowing

I liked the Salon review

Harry Knowles is disappointed.

This makes me want to pre-emptively like this movie.

i stopped myself when i got to the big spoiler pause (sigh, normally i don't care but i'd kinda like the end to be a surprise) but the stuff he mentioned, like batman retiring because someone he loved died, seemed kinda weak sans context.

it just seemed a really nerdy and macho rant.

I hope this is super sacrilegious. I'm sick to death of "faithful" comic adaptations.

honestly i don't really care if the film adds up so long as it's got forward motion. i just don't want to have a chance to ponder how it could have been better while it's on screen.

so no hollered, gravelly bat-monologues, nolan!

i just want to feel a well of emotion as batman sheds a tear then emerges triumphant and more gravelly voiced than ever, plus explosions.

worried we're more in for "plus expositions"

I hope this is super sacrilegious. I'm sick to death of "faithful" comic adaptations.

― Simon H., Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:11 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I imagine it'll be as "faithful" as the other Nolan movies. Not sure what else you're expecting

I've already seen a couple of butthurt fanboy takes. I find that encouraging.

Bob Mondello had a clever bit in his (glowing) review today on NPR. He was talking about the score, which was playing behind him. The music volume kept going up and up until he was having to shout his review over it.

Watched the first two flicks today as a refresher course; TDK is about 1000x better than BB. It's not even close.

i still wish they'd gone with Philip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin. i can't get over how amazing that sounded.

definitely a better villain than Bane

and the whole high society/corrupt rich freak angle...

sweet tidbit about Batman Returns from IMDB

The production wanted to use King Penguins but the only tame ones in captivity were at a bird sanctuary in the Cotswolds deep in the English countryside. So the birds were flown over to the States in the refrigerated hold of a plane, they were given their own refrigerated trailer, their own swimming pool with half a ton of fresh ice every day, and had fresh fish delivered daily straight from the docks. Even though the temperature outside frequently topped 100 degrees, the entire set was refrigerated down to 35 degrees. The birds also had a round-the-clock bodyguard. Clearly the birds enjoyed the experience as, following their stint in Hollywood, most of them had mated and produced eggs - the sure sign of a contented penguin.

:)

I hope this is super sacrilegious. I'm sick to death of "faithful" comic adaptations.

― Simon H., Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:11 PM (2 hours ago)

yes, yes, a thousand times yes. that was the most annoying and telling thing about that dumbass knowles rant: i do not give one hairy fuck whether or not this movie satisfies your sense of "what batman is really like". still plan to hate it.

I still prefer BB to TDK so ner. Two-Face stuff doesn't work, nor the Joker's boat thing.

But now I'm just kind of ready for TDKR being even more grandiose and batshit and not really caring if it doesn't hang together like BB. Bring it on. IMAX ticket booked for Monday morning.

the villains in BB were boring