*does the Batusi*
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
*lovingly clutches Hero With A Thousand Faces*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
Where have all the good men goneand where are all the gods?Where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?Late at night I tossand I turnand I dream of what I need.I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
"The Avengers" is kid stuff compared with this meditation on mortal loss and heroic frailty.
That's why I liked it, you blockhead. How many ponderous and broody superhero movies does the world need?
― LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
you mean Thor doesn't meditate on mortal loss and heroic frailty in The Avengers? he should do that because .. oh wait no he shouldn't.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
Spiderman 2 does it pretty well without being all emo about it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
kid stuff
!
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://washingtonexaminer.com/romneys-new-foe-batmans-bane/article/2502274
― max, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
I still want to see Dark Knight Rises, and maybe I'll enjoy it for some of those very reasons but ugh does all that chinstrokey grownup stuff really have to be a thing that is waved over all the other equally good comic book movies?
why oh why etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/dark-knight-rises-critic-receives-death-threats
― Alba, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
no Veg all comic book movies must be the same because all comics are the same DO U SEE
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
That screencap reminds me how awful the CGI looks in that football scene. I mean, the efx have been generally pretty good in this franchise so far, which makes that clip in the trailers stand out even more.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
how could you be that upset about a review of a movie you haven't seen? The trailers don't look that good.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't look anything like the last cave-in I witnessed.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
It just looks like a super obvious greenscree and the players don't blend in at all with what's going on in the background.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know when various cities got it for critics. NYC already had it, I think?
GK: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/the-dark-knight-rises/
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
this new obsession with rotten tomatoes scores is so fucking weird
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
I tune out as soon as anyone tells me a) Rotten Tomato scores or b)b) IMDB scores.
YAY THIS MOVIE WINS THE INTERNET. But it sucks. So...
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
For once a melodrama with pulp origins convinces viewers that it can be the modern equivalent to Greek myths
"for once"
― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
I really don't understand the people who obsess over rotten tomatoes or think that getting a high or perfect score matters in any significant way.
― LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
It's a 84% now. I bet Nolan wishes he hadn't bothered
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Think of it like the weekly poll updates on the presidential superhero contest, only slightly less trivial.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
movies that get in the 95% range are generally boring and average
― Simon H., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
im not sure if it's "new" or just reaching new depths of triviality: it's like an immunitary (sp?) response to the threat of disappointment. a whole identity wrapped up in this stuff means that these corporate/cultural products have to be the "real thing." it's fascinating though (in its stupidity).
― ryan, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
And here come the death threats for the bad reviews.
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
Does "I hope you die" really constitute a death threat?
― Ówen P., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
No, but hyperbole must be fought with hyperbole. It's the law.
― mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
those Michael Haneke fans are the ones really out for blood
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
a "good review" is pretty relative, I'd imagine some critics see their review blurbed on rotten tomatoes and realize that their words were misconstrued and a positive review was viewed as negative or vice versa.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
puzzling: editors who classify 2.5/4 as "rotten." Math?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Like a superhero inadvertantly attracting/creating supervillains, rottentomatoes inadvertently attract/creates idiots.
― mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
It's the review aggragator site we deserve, but not the...ah fuck it.
― mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
There's always Metacritic, which divines numerals from reviews that don't use any rating scale whatsoever.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to mention that site, but I did not dare speak its name. I wonder if they have a robot or wage slave that translates your words into a numeral, Morbs. Either way, what a job.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I've used RT more than once. Why does it get more "play" than Metacritic, which is more reliable and easier to navigate?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
it got there first i guess
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
Metacritic lacks a cutesy name and the magic of the Tomatometer.
Agrees with the Tomatometer 71% of the time.
Don't argue with the Tomatometer!
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
Tomatometer/Retemotamot
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Agrees with the Tomatometer 83% of the time.
I regard this stat with the greatest of shame.
― the new dire homonomoreboobsativity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
i could never be a critic. i have no idea what i just saw most of the time, let alone if i liked it.
― ryan, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
not a disqualifier by any means.
all my reviews have a star rating, so it's easy for them. not so much for me.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:37 AM (28 minutes ago)
i don't get the "reliable" thing. neither is a useful guide to movie quality. they're guides to what people are saying about movie quality. i think they're about equally reliable in that sense, though neither is perfect. i prefer rottentomatoes because i like the "top critics" filter, which allows me to easily focus on the responses of voices i'm familiar with.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
oh, I'm not sure anyone mentioned that the RT editor has suspended user comments and they're moving to a non-anonymous system.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
rip anonymous commenting
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
i prefer rottentomatoes because i like the "top critics" filter, which allows me to easily focus on the responses of voices i'm familiar with
yeah but Metacritic does this automatically.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
neither is a useful guide to movie quality
is that so
Coping with a Dark Knight Rises negative review
― LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno how anyone can having anything but a 'hope for the best, prepare for the worst' attitude towards sequels, historically speaking it's just a crapshoot. i wanna see this and want to enjoy it, but who knows really.
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Often with clear bias. Seen lots of mostly positive reviews get scored in the 40 percent range.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty rare i want to get a sense of consensus, but i prefer the green-to-red scroll-down formatting of metacritic, despite the lunacy of their imposed rating style, to the relative swamp of rotten tomatoes
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link