How horrible.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
my thoughts & prayers are with you doc
― max, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
so, the NYC BOE finally certified Rangel's primary win after 2 weeks! A comedy of ineptitude.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2012/07/6134025/whats-board-elections-going-do-about-elephant
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
When I mentioned I am going to get rid of Obamacare they weren’t happy, I didn’t get the same response. That’s O.K, I want people to know what I stand for and if I don’t stand for what they want, go vote for someone else, that’s just fine…But I hope people understand this, your friends who like Obamacare, you remind them of this, if they want more stuff from government tell them to go vote for the other guy — more free stuff.Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/romneys-free-stuff-speech-is-a-new-low-20120713#ixzz20W4lNIPp
But I hope people understand this, your friends who like Obamacare, you remind them of this, if they want more stuff from government tell them to go vote for the other guy — more free stuff.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/romneys-free-stuff-speech-is-a-new-low-20120713#ixzz20W4lNIPp
Out of the mouth of a rich man's child.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Your ENTIRE LIFE is built on free stuff, you asshole.
good morning!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
The whole Republican meme regarding rich people who have made it, and suggesting that the rest of us are just jealous, ignores that taking advantage of family wealth and benefiting from manipulation of tax rates and deductions and off-shore accounts is not hard work
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 July 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/meet-the-house-dems-who-voted-to-repeal-obamacare.php?ref=fpblg
The 5 Blue-dog Dems in the House who voted to repal Obamacare
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 July 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
repeal
vote for repel
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.esquire.com/features/obama-lethal-presidency-0812
just to make sure everybody gets that one
welcome to the role of government on behalf of the governed. The principle at play is that you elect and pay people to protect your interests - and that includes murdering people who are demonstrably not in your interest. This was true when it was waged as siege warfare, and frankly if you can imagine having a clue about the nature of siege warfare, or trench warfare, or any other kind of warfare that involves thousands of people and famine and pestilence, as it has for millenia, then this kind of warfare - 3am helicopters, robot assassinations, and self-destructing computer code - should be recognized for what it is - the most civilized form of war that this species has ever seen.
I've been sick and tired of domestic progressives' snark about foreign policy for as long as I've been legal to drink. Learn some fucking history. Nation states do not care for one another. Death is measured in dollars. Deals get made. The deals getting made now are the best deals we have seen - as a species - since Adam and Eve.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
On the topic of WH go codes for sketchy sounding shit, please to whine about stuxnet sometime. I guarantee you don't have a leg to stand on unless you prefer a land war with Iran on principle, and if that's the case, bring back the draft.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
I'm that guy.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 14 July 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
you're so right, that 16-year-old boy hanging out with his buddies on the beach was demonstrably not in any of our interests.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 14 July 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
Rich man/government teat types are a really audaciously blinders-on sort of crew. As mentioned before by myself and others, Obama gets shit for going on vacation, including to placed like Hawaii, where he was (allegedly!) born, but he needs to go somewhere because unlike Bush, or Reagan or Romney he is not independently wealthy and owner of a family homestead or retreat. And before that you had someone like John McCain, who is not only also independently wealthy, but has literally been living off the government from the moment of his birth on.
I'm not sure why folks like Obama pussyfoot around this stuff. Bring on the class warfare, I say.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
tombot's right of course: one must either object to the entirety of the country's foriegn policy ("domestic progressives", lol) or unquestioningly assent to its every aspect (tombot). there's no in-between
how does that old saying go? to a guy who supported the iraq war, every problem looks like an iraq war. or something
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
ah, CIVILIZATION.
snarkin' on, like Jesus would.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
apparently there's a cover article in Foreign Affairs arguing to let Iran have nukes, bcz every nation that's gotten them has started to behave more responsibly? I can assent to that. We don't need no fuckin' land war.
(also we shouldn't have shit to say about nukes, EVER #harrystruman)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
one reason ... many of the people who go off on government spending for The Poors whilst they themselves have been the beneficiaries of government largesse are military veterans. McCain is the most obvious example, but this includes your friendly neighborhood Teabag who served in, say, the OG Persian Gulf War and who now shouts his belief that "Obama = Hitler" when he isn't cashing his VA disability check.
attacking military veterans, or their benefits/preferences in hiring/etc., is tantamount to defending child molesters or killing kittens.
― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
i.e, the Teatard military veteran "earned his benefits and privileges." those lazy shiftless layabouts on welfare/unemployment/Obamacare haven't. or so that's the mindset.
― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Watching Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation trot out the usual blame both sides and why can't they get together arguments. Ugh. At least Robert Reich was on there. Now Schieffer is denying he's part of the Romney campaign because they are using footage of he and David Brooks in an ad about how Obama is just Mr. Negative
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
I started watching a segment of Meet the Press but Grover Norquist was there and I can't handle that.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/disclose-act-new-donor-transparency-law-blocked-in-senate/2012/07/16/gJQAbm7WpW_blog.html
The Senate has failed to advance legislation that would require independent groups to disclose the names of contributors who give more than $10,000 for use in political campaigns.
The measure, known as the DISCLOSE Act, died in a 51 to 44 vote on a procedural motion. It needed 60 votes to move forward.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
bcz every nation that's gotten them has started to behave more responsibly?
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
you mean like Israel? or North Korea? Pakistan?
Republicans say the measure could have a chilling affect on political giving, subjecting campaign donors to intimidation from their political opponents.
The bill is a response to the 2010 Citizens United ruling, in which the U.S. Supreme Court said that corporate campaign donations are a form of free speech and cannot be limited by government. Some nonprofit groups and unions are not required to reveal their donors. The bill would require speedy disclosure of big donors.
Intimidation, huh?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
if you can imagine having a clue about the nature of siege warfare, or trench warfare, or any other kind of warfare that involves thousands of people and famine and pestilence, as it has for millenia, then this kind of warfare - 3am helicopters, robot assassinations, and self-destructing computer code - should be recognized for what it is - the most civilized form of war that this species has ever seen.
tombototm
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw I still don't like it, but it's better than firebombing Tokyo
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
ugh
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
v easy to say when you're not on the receiving end of a pushed button
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
i think we're having a means-ends disagreement here tom...
― du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
tmi
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
automated warfare: so fresh, so clean.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't this argument explicitly rejected by the Supreme Court in regards to the California Prop. 8 donors?
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
the important thing about it is that less people die. that is all. that you can't see that as an improvement is weird.
xp
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
not good enough
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
and fwiw one person dead is still too many afaic. but 10 dead people /= 10,000 dead people.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
being a "less"/"fewer" pedant is total hell
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
imagine teaching the diff between "amount" and "number" to twenty year olds.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
DJP that's why you should be in favor of more death and more dead, it's just simpler
― du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
I agree Shakey but I'm more and more appalled by the distance it gives us from the killing and the way it no longer implicates us since we're no longer sending our sons to do it on the ground but I guess people probably felt that way when the first jawbone or javelin was used instead of strangling or pummeling to death with your fists.
― sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
― sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:09 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hurts me a thousand times more than any other solecism
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
So are only choices are isolationism or the Prez looking at "terrorist baseball cards" and ordering a button pushed with no due process? I don't think so. Never gonna hapopen because Congress won't do it, but an expanded FISA Court that would rule on drone usage could be a middle ground.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
MW otm
and many of the "ten" HAHA ppl we are killing have fucknothing to do with "keeping us safe" or whatever bullshit is being spouted by Panetta & Co.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
but I guess people probably felt that way when the first jawbone or javelin was used instead of strangling or pummeling to death with your fists.
naw dude this is how MEN beef
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
we should really stop killing HAHA ppl
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
if one death is a tragedy + a million is a statistic, it's a good thing that in modern society we're mostly dealing with tragedies and not statistics!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
if you can't see the fucking hilarity in these arguments, Dr Strngelove sux
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link