Kenneth Lonergan's MARGARET, starring Anna Paquin as a teenager in turmoil

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Man, New Yorkers will be arguing about this movie long after the rest of the country forgot they never knew about this movie.

http://cityarts.info/2012/07/11/their-own-private-911/

the new dire homonormativity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

as we say so often here, "sod the rest of the country, if we are indeed part of it."

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Loud and clear.

the new dire homonormativity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

anyone watch the extended cut yet?

Number None, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

also c'mon, no one is going to waste time arguing with Armond. Isn't this his second pan of the movie?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

finally got a firm August release date on Netflix

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

Streaming or disc?

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

disc came out yesterday i think? at least my pre-ordered blu ray shipped from amazon~

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't this his second pan of the movie?

Well, the movie's fans refuse to let it leave screening rooms.

the new dire homonormativity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

Netflix release dates don't coincide with everyone else's.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

NYC chauvinism can't be the only thing that's making me pull a "Morbs on QT" stance on this movie, can it?

the new dire homonormativity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

3-hr cut of this is def. superior to the theatrical.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

The film shows the Upper West Side to be kind of a horrible place IMO

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

xp in what ways?

fit and working again, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

"Subplots" feel much better-integrated and more fleshed out, for starters.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

Also, I'm glad I took the time to read a wiki synopsis of The Tales of Hoffmann.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

I have seen the Archers' film of it, so how will that help?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Otherwise I'd have not picked up on the neat little parallels, eg. the three lovers.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

is the version on itunes the director's cut or the theatrical release?

akm, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

2 1/2 hours so I guess it's not the directors cut....annoying

akm, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Fox has insured that no one will have a good experience acquiring this film.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Bah, stupid phone wouldn't let me mention that I saw on another forum the odd factoid that this film has made more in its limited Australian engagement than in the rest of the world combined.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe Paquin has some weird following there amongst Campion fans or something? I got nothing.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Is Ruffalo:Australia::Hasselhoff:Germany ?

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

It's playing at Nova which has 15 screens and the management likes to use their surplus screens to push films/distinguish themselves. Gondry's Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind played there for over a year.

Jedmond, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

So, I watched the extended cut. I never saw the 2 1/2 hour version, but loved this movie. It sucks that it's so hard to see it correctly.

polyphonic, Friday, 13 July 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link

extended cut turned Edelstein around something fierce: http://www.vulture.com/2012/07/edelstein-dont-miss-margaret-directors-cut.html

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 13 July 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link

damn.... looking fwd to this

just sayin, Friday, 13 July 2012 09:15 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait to see the extended cut

bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 13 July 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

So it's an extended cut and not a director's cut, right? That is, the best they can do? Did Lonergan supervise its, er, extension?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 July 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

well it was probably an earlier cut of Lonergan's or one that was submitted with his approval. The studio are hardly going to ask him to recut the entire movie to his desired version at this stage given all they they have already lost financially. plus he could take another year to do it, i dare say.

jed_, Friday, 13 July 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait to see the extended cut of this. criminal that it was only released on one screen for 2 weeks in the UK

stet, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Does the longer cut shed any more light on the scene where Paquin tells Damon she's had an abortion? Unless I missed something, I think the shorter cut leaves it ambiguous as to whether this is a lie.

Jeff W, Friday, 13 July 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

According to that Edelstein review it does

Number None, Friday, 13 July 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda liked that ambiguity.

ryan, Friday, 13 July 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait to see the extended cut of this. criminal that it was only released on one screen for 2 weeks in the UK

It started out with that run, but ended up extending to many other screens when it was such a sell-out at the Odeon Panton St (where it played for a couple of months I think)

Alba, Friday, 13 July 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

Does the longer cut shed any more light on the scene where Paquin tells Damon she's had an abortion? Unless I missed something, I think the shorter cut leaves it ambiguous as to whether this is a lie.

― Jeff W, Friday, 13 July 2012 14:57 (1 week ago) Bookmark

Having now watched the extended cut, i preferred the ambiguous version

Number None, Friday, 20 July 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

and Edelstein is way off base about the new running time suddenly turning it into a masterpiece or whatever. There's some nice little added moments in there but all the truly great stuff was already present

Number None, Friday, 20 July 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds sort of like the similarly wrong reaction to the extended cut of "Almost Famous." Some nice stuff put back in, but most of the good stuff was there already, and some of the stuff put back in makes the good stuff not as good.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 July 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

im v curious 2 watch the shorter cut - feel like i'll give it some more time tho, i just watched the extended cut a few nights ago - i dont think it's a masterpiece but there'er a lot of great scenes - number none, i think you're the 1st person ive read of that prefers the shorter vers

johnny crunch, Friday, 20 July 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

Lonergan was on the radio the other day saying it wasn't true that he intended for it to be longer in the first place – claims that this longer cut just comes from him being asked if he wanted to do one, and thought that it would be interesting to explicitly show some of the stuff that he chose to hint at in the theatrical cut.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kkr4n

Alba, Friday, 20 July 2012 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Full cut playing here!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 August 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

So the existing (150-minute) cut is a mixed success. The last half hour made me look away several times.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

look away from what? the only thing I thought that misfired completely in the last act was Jean Reno's resolution.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 August 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

the Damon-Paquin relationship, the resolutions -- a mess

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 August 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link

I sisn't think the Damon thing was gonna go there it's true, but I like his "You stupid..."

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah that felt like the good sort of ad-lib (whether it actually was or not)

Simon H., Sunday, 12 August 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

LOL, the conspiracy to keep this from people's eyes continues: Now selling for $999 on Amazon.

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

Link

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Amazon's exclusive and stock ran out. The reissue isn't happening until October.

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link


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