maureen dowd: what IS this woman's problem anyhoo?

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is it really the french fries' fault?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 14 March 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

some of us have longer grudges. let's not forget ms. dowd's shrill columns all throughout 1998 ... part of the "clinton is a BAD MAN" monicagate pundit dogpile -- at least till around the election, when it was becoming apparent that the voters were getting pissed off by the kenny starr chamber's shenanigans and at which point she conveniently started bemoaning started bashing said starr chamber.

the woman hasn't had an original thought since forever. she's useful as a weathervane on what the punditariat are thinking (though you can figure that out just as easily by watching the sunday morning blab-a-thons [if you have a strong enough stomach]) and little else.

and oh yeah, re this "being turned down for the prom" -- it wasn't me that revived this thread this time round.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I like her column in the NYT today.

youn (youn), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://i24.tinypic.com/2s1qgsj.jpg

jhøshea, Friday, 4 January 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

By MAUREEN DOWD

Published: June 29, 2008

Go to Columnist Page »

OBAMA'S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING

Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I
have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the
Obama's campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obama's
internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200
million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any
candidate in history - and this was all from the internet campaign.

What I learned from this insider was shocking but I guess we shouldn't be
surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that
can't be broken and no ethics that prevail.

Obama's internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail
networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters
who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites.

Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign
staff were more than pleased by the results.

Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake
multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security
monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming
in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of
transmission it was clear these donations were "programmed" by a very
sophisticated user.

While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due
to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were
able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly
from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and
bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they
were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Middle Eastern
countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in
Saudi Arabia.

Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a
similar pattern of limited credit card charges.

It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources
other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the
campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated
campaign financing laws.

It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to
audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific
credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of
these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a
cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record
keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.

This is a shocking revelation.

We have been concerned about the legality of "bundling" contributions
after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have
an even greater problem.

I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started
to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet
contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.

If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00,
that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would
also be 13 million contributions would need to be processed. How did all
that happen?

I believe the Obama campaign's internet fund raising needs a serious, in
depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of
internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new
laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the
spirit as well.

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp

akm, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

also, i don't understand why you continue to repost these ridiculous screeds that you know are wrong without comment; it does nothing but give them yet another undeserved airing where some gullible dumbfuck might run across them and believe them

akm, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, and what, how dare you not tell the truth on the internets

Mr. Que, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

won't anyone think of the gullible dumbfucks

Mr. Que, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ilx: home of gullible dumbfucks

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

come on, maudow doesn't even sound like that. n she writes about celibate priests matchmaking and all other kinds o shit

if people turnin, they turnin

yungblut, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

May all your futures be pleasant ones
Not like our present ones
Drink, l'chaim, to life
To life, l'chaim

yungblut, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

ilx: home of gullible dumbfucks

27 new "please delete abusive post" threads in Mod Req by midnight.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

as a gullible dumbfuck i have the right of deletion for this post directed at me

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Nasty stuff. Saudi Arabia and China are just thrown in without special emphasis, but are obviously the poisoned pill you are meant to swallow.

This dirty trick is a lot more subtle than the false madrassa story. Whoever did it has a pretty good idea of how to plant a really flourishing false rumor.

Hatching one takes one or a few people a few days to brainstorm and refine. Squashing it takes a much larger effort and, like cockroaches, you can never kill them all. This one will almost certainly hurt Obama among many hundreds of thousands of voters.

Aimless, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

The New York Times is absolutely pathetic these days. Wasn't it once some kind-of newspaper of record?

burt_stanton, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't find him writing about that particular column, but Bob Somerby has his usual coronary going after her bullshit for the last few weeks. Shit, it's a regular occurance now.

kingfish, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

SHE DIDNT WRITE THE COLUMN GUYZ

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly have yall even read maureen dowd before? no refs to clinton sex-life or bush as 'boy king', just a bunch of worldnetdaily style rumor-mongering

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like she did. It's got the byline and everything

burt_stanton, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ilx: home of gullible dumbfucks

-- and what, Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:28 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Mr. Que, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP Dowd.

brownie, Thursday, 10 July 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Somerby has been having a field day with NYT "Public Editor" Clark Hoyt's very public verbal defenstration of Dowd several weeks ago - over her her deeply weird gender politics. And Somerby's traced how chastened her columns have been since then. "Clark Hoyt gets results!"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.236.com/images/photo2/3702/original/original.jpg

El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

^ Heh heh

I can't type.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

her column about the catholic priest who gives marriage advice was incredible. she's a bitter old hag.

m coleman, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't it basically conclude that all men suck and aren't good enough to marry?

Nicole, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. What was also awesome about that one is she didn't even have to write anything for it. (Unless she made the priest up completely.)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i doubt she made it up. I went to parochial school around the same time as Dowd and there were priests who specialized in this. in like 7th or 8th grade there was a padre who went around to all the schools in the diocese and gave a "sex talk" to the kids, separated by gender of course. the girls told us afterwards that he instructed them to "bite a guy's tongue if he sticks in your mouth." scare stories from a nominal celibate.

when Dowd righteously invokes her working-class catholic roots I just see red. what a phony.

m coleman, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL @ middle aged single woman looking to priests as fonts of wisdom on marriage and sexuality. maureen should have coffee w/peggy noonan sometime.

m coleman, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Dowd is like a bitchier version of Custos.

Nicole, Friday, 11 July 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

haaaaa omg holy shit

goole, Friday, 11 July 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Nicole's description just above = lols, but I just stumbled across an equally worthy one due to this sequence of events:

A Dowd column.

Ta-Nehisi Coates's first response.

His second response, apologizing for having 'missed the tongue squarely positioned in Maureen Dowd's cheek.'

One of his commenters in response to his second post:

Irony should be a stiletto -- in Dowd's hands it's more like a lobster mallet.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/opinion/12dowd.html

But Sarah Palin can come across as utterly unready to lead the world — or even find the world on a map — and that doesn't reflect poorly on the rest of us.

It only means that she doesn't have enough mind grapes or thoughtsicles, as Tracy Morgan refers to brain droppings on "30 Rock," to be president soon.

mizzell, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

a screaming lobster mallet?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

...of love

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

don't know if I've ever read her, but I saw her on BBC on election night, and she was so tasty !!!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

she's best with a bit of drawn butter, IMHO

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

She claims she never read Marshall's post last week and had heard the line from a friend who did not mention reading it in Marshall's blog.

Uh, yeah.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

So she'd willingly plagiarize her friend as well?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...
eleven months pass...

Ok, do i want to actually read a column titled "The Tortured Mechanics of Eroticism," or should i just use that as a new display name?

JoeStork, Sunday, 14 July 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

hehe

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

it's about corsets, p. informative by modo stds.

j., Sunday, 14 July 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

surprised nobody has said "i'd let her torture my mechanics of eroticism" yet

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

really, you are? really? now that you've typed it out?

j., Sunday, 14 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

More than surprised. "Flabbergasted."

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Her latest screw-up re the NYC mayoral race made Bill de Blasio's wife sound like she was calling Christine Quinn a childless, uncaring lesbian.

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/22/please_fire_maureen_dowd_or_get_her_a_fact_checker/

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

Poppy Bush used to find her funny, which tells me everything.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

she is like, america's cool aunt. as a kid, her jokes at thanksgiving seemed sophisticated and cool, like a portal into another, less humdrum world than the one you were familiar with. but looking back, as an adult, it's clear that she was a poseur in the end.

Treeship, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link

"in the end"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

Reading her and colleague William Safire's attempts at bon mots and sophisticated banter was like watching old men trying to pee into the urinal.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

still, the Clintons are subhuman garbage and i don't give a shit about style in political writing

xo

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

that was obvious from the revive

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

"subhuman garbage"

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:30 (seven years ago) link

thanks for staying out of the election thread morbs, my blood pressure thanks you.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link

fuck you, that thread is for you and your fellow tourettesians

I was happy to see my friend's teenage son posted her 'HRC is the perfect Republican nominee' column on FB the other day, STYLE be damned

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

'scaling wokeback mountain'

mookieproof, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

her writing style is overwrought in a way seldom seen in this era, as if in crafting prose she's invented as version of 'wit' that has neither humor nor insight

no clue why you'd use a word like 'mandarins' to refer to people with perceived power in 2019, but she did it recently

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

she was best buds w/ Poppy Bush so she sure can pick em

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

plus using Rahm Satan Emanuel as her primary source this week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

credit where credit is due. this opening was good:

My favorite “Twilight Zone” episode is the one where aliens land and, in a sign of their peaceful intentions, give world leaders a book. Government cryptographers work to translate the alien language. They decipher the title — “To Serve Man” — and that’s reassuring, so interplanetary shuttles are set up.

But as the cryptographers proceed, they realize — too late — that it’s a cookbook.

That, dear reader, is the story of OpenAI.

treeship., Thursday, 7 December 2023 14:38 (five months ago) link

Unless you haven't seen that episode before. Maybe a spoiler alert, Mo?

henry s, Thursday, 7 December 2023 17:58 (five months ago) link


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