quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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I’ll be watching ‘Mommie Dearest,’ and I’ll be like, ‘Oh, my God, Joan Crawford is amazing.’

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QK-RRQn4E-U/T0mBPUNiffI/AAAAAAAACIQ/gIKodVmrWGc/s1600/deep%2Bthoughts.png

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

spoiled brants

estela, Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

Gawker really tore that article apart.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

ugh that gawker article was good but they did this five months ago http://gawker.com/5881065/the-brant-brothers-the-worlds-luckiest-teenage-homosexuals

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Friday, 22 June 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

ha, good catch

Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 June 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

I guess I feel like there is this small, ultra-rarefied group of people who finds that sort of stuff interesting, for whom the word "socialite" actually even means anything, and that those people should just have a private newsletter or something and stop taking up valuable internet space on sites The Rest Of Us read.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's called the New York Observer iirc

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

that thought crossed my mind

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Unfair, the New York Observer is a 1000x better read than Sunday Styles.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

that's very true

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck me, that Brant brothers piece. In summary: "These people are rich and therefore better than you." And they're not even as bad as the bottom-feeders trailing behind them in the purgatorial demi-monde of the NYC fashion blog world. The writer could find good work as a dictator's official biographer.

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

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scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/e/6/e6aj7ejvdc8wdv87.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

i kinda wanna read those livesaving butler tips

for example, how do i organize my enormous diamond collection? i'd wear my new diamond-coated pants if i could pick them out from all of the other diamond-coated pants

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

T&C's take on celebrity is so weird. Sure, you're an attractive, talented actress in a critically acclaimed hit movie but if you didn't go to the right school than fuck you. It's like a parallel universe.

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

"AWKWARD! When Your Neighbor's Art Collection Makes You Blush" is A+

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

that's some downton abbey shit

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

decent taste in cover women

mh, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

my favorite thing about the brant piece was that naturally it was written by a reporter with the word "van" in his name

J0rdan S., Friday, 22 June 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

man i really do not miss moylan's gawker posts

J0rdan S., Friday, 22 June 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to figure out if Town & Country is aimed at aspirational upper middle class, aspirational nouveau riche, or actual old money. It's hard to believe legit old money would have a glossy magazine about being old money, but IDK.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

"The Rich & The Recession: What They Can't Afford Anymore" kind of suggests the first option.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

i think its for all those people. half of that magazine is party pictures from aspen or florida or wherever people go for fancy balls. i think for some people its like the nyt wedding thing. get your picture in T&C at the charity ball and you've made it somehow.

scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Today, the magazine is published monthly, and its readership is composed of mainly younger socialites, café society, and middle class professionals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_%26_Country_(magazine)

scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

Is the art-collection-related blushing due to bad taste, superiority, or obscene content?

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Like are you supposed to have been embarrassed by

(a) a bad painting of sailboats
(b) a Charles Ray sculpture of a gay orgy consisting of Charles Ray clones
or
(c) a bunch of expensive Damien Hirst bullshit

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

haven't we banged this out before? there's no real old money tbh

goole, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

why did i say "tbh", meant "anymore"

goole, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

there are still some royal families iirc

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

do gettys and hearsts not count?

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

Rothschilds, Vanderbilts and Rockefellers still have mad cash, right?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure I've personally met people who qualify as old money - I mean how many generations back does it have to go. 18th century? 17th?

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

IMO "old money" now just means being rich is an established way of life in your family. So I guess if you're like third generation super-rich that would count? Maybe it's analogous to immigrants -- the first generation will never fool anyone, the second generation badly wants to fit in, the third generation has roots.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.socialregisteronline.com/#!__questions

scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

The Treat Rotunda at the New England Historic Genealogical Society on Newbury Street in Boston was the setting for a reception celebrating the publication in October 2011 of the first genealogical treatment of the Lowell family of Boston in more than a century. Among the family members present were Mr. John L. Thorndike (who spoke about the genesis of the project); Mr. and Mrs. Edward L. Stone (Cassandra S. Reeve); Mrs. Standish Bradford Jr. (Brigitte Pullerdt); Mr. and Mrs. Francis V. Lloyd 3d (Lida L. Thompson); and Mr. and Mrs. Cornelius Byron Waud (Corinna Roosevelt Reeve). The Society’s president and CEO, D. Brenton Simons, and co-author Scott C. Steward were among the other speakers

scott seward, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Is the art-collection-related blushing due to bad taste, superiority, or obscene content?

Super curious about this and not finding anything informative about it online. Almost curious enough to see if the public library subscribes to T&C.

Je55e, Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

An interesting dead end:

http://i.imgur.com/RFMND.jpg

http://www.townandcountrymagazine.com.au/
Wagga Wagga News, sport and weather

Je55e, Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

haven't we banged this out before? there's no real old money tbh

this is prob objectively true but you'd be hard pressed to convince some people I know in new England of this

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

my aunt could be considered NE "old money", I guess ... ancestor invented some goofy Yale tradition, last living heiress of an old family worth tons o money. waspy nickname as everyday name. she's pretty cool, lives and acts pretty humbly, you'd never tell.

Spectrum, Saturday, 23 June 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

i come from an old waspy new england family but the money was long gone by the time i was born. and i didn't grow up like that. my grandfather did. and my father and his sisters to some extent. i always enjoyed meeting cousins and great aunts and uncles who had edith wharton accents. my grandmother talked like that. they were from another world. kinda hard to relate to them in a lot of ways. but i think whatever manners i have come from those people. and, of course, my natural sense of superiority.

scott seward, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

she married into that name. and made her fortune in the 90s!

goole, Sunday, 24 June 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

my father theorizes our surname is an assumed one, as we were probably horse thieves in the old world and went into hiding

mh, Sunday, 24 June 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link

It was linked above.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 25 June 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

oh :( i opened the whole thread and ctrl-f'd "midwife"

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 25 June 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

i apologize

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 25 June 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

I just didn't want you think that we'd missed a gem like that. :)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

"Crunchy types". "The women in the red-bottom shoes". Is there a phrasebook for this stuff? The closed circle of examples (models, actresses) and interviewees (stylists, magazine editors) brings this story close to NYT Style perfection.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 25 June 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

never heard of these Brant kids before, but some people posted that story on FB and I could tell I didn't need to click on it from looking at the photo.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 June 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link


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