That would have been something.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
that's what i heard
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Would have been cooler if they had cast an actual old guy like Ernest Borgnine or something, it's not like you ever saw him young except in that dumb viral
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
I like that the android is the only person in the film who seems to have any grasp on existential or philosophical questions.
Kind of hope he told the alien "pretend to kill me, I'll survive, but please waste these noobs"
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
well, he is essentially existential!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
lol those noobs so deserved wasting
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
- What the hell is that giant fossilised thing in the chair? Why is this never answered?
Doesn't matter, but the crew sure wonders.
- How come all those eggs were just sitting around in that chamber? You're telling me they were waiting for that crew to come along? How does that work?
That's what eggs do! But who laid the eggs?
- Why didn't the crew run after the chestburster straight away? They've seen what it can do, and yet they all just stand there. Talk about stupid.
They were all in shock that a mean alien lizard creature burst out of their friend's chest.
- How did the facehugger get onto Kane's face? He was wearing a helmet. Surely if it used acid that would have burned Kane's face.
Surely a parasite like that knows how to use acid judiciously.
-How the hell does the creature grow to a full adult in, what, a day? Stupid writing.
It molted, dude.
- Why did Ash not do a better job of hiding the info on the computer?
He wasn't devious, he was programmed.
- What are the creatures? Where do they come from? How were the eggs made? What is their relation to the dude in the chair? We're never told
Good thing it doesn't matter, since more or less as soon as we're introduced to them the crew is being attacked and running around and stuff.
Again, lack of "Alien" philosophy justifies any "we may never know" hanging threads. But the whole point of "Prometheus" is about people searching for answers, which sort of puts the burden on the film to, you know, at least answer a little. Especially since it gives us that audience-perspective prologue which the answer-seekers have no idea about.
Lindelof, by the way, could answer everything, but he has such respect for the audience he wants to make you think.*
*While he brainstorms bullshit answers to "reveal" on the future DVD interview features.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Mysteries in Alien aren't actually material to the story; they provide a sense of wonder and horror
"mysteries" in Prometheus are just things the screenwriters didn't think through and are an integral part of the story
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Not to mention they know that its previous form had acid for blood and was extremely aggressive, and Parker's immediate idea seems to be "stab it," as he brandishes a knife. Ulterior motives aside, Ash quite sensibly yells, "Don't touch it!"
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Sensibly, and with a motivation that becomes clear later
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
That one moment alone is way smarter than anything in P-dog
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Which is why I've said a little bit of David motivation would have gone a long way.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
it wasn't a lizard it was a fetus worm don't get it twisted
― the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
don't get it twisted around your arm that's for sure
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
~fouls suffered~
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
ah, just pretend that belongs here
~fools suffered through prometheus~
― the late great, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― brony ver (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
you know my favorite thing about Aliens that i forgot about is how everyone who works for the corporation wears sport jackets with a popped collar. so awesome. it's like "douche alert"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
;)
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
tbh the motivation for shit looking really cool never needs to be any deeper than "this giant dead alien thing will be in this room and look really cool" and there is mystery built in
why is there a giant face on the wall? because it looks cool
anyone else notice there was a giant face on the canyon wall, too, Mt. Rushmore-style? these alien dudes really like their faces
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
with a dash of tabasco
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
wouldve been cool if one of the big faces was like a Neverevending Story type monster who talked and answered all the plot holes in the movie
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
if the film was straight up until that point & then the eyes blink open and this grumpy face croaks up, my heart wld have soared
― ogmor, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
^^ otm
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
heh
― Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
if you are still quibbling with a single aspect of the failed 'world-building' in the script, instead of just laughing hysterically -- I don't get it! the film has idiot-proofed itself, you are wasting your time calling it silly
― Milton Parker, Monday, June 11, 2012 7:32 PM (Yesterday)
otm
in fact when they landed on the planet, found the landing strip, and entered the engineer's lair in a matter of minutes I thought, "this movie appears to be operating at the intellectual level of mutant aka forbidden world", and just went with it from there. brain off, enjoy visuals. perhaps this represents some reprehensible forfeiture of my role as a critical viewer but eh.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
someone comparing this to Forbidden World is actually the first thing that's made me want to see it
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
I think he meant, "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone."
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/spacehunter-200x200.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
were you guys really laughing hysterically at this movie
― Number None, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
I laughed once, and then the rest was sort of sighing.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
During the scene in the auto-doc, yes
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
actually I think I meant metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
hey guys they just released a new prometheus trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EzAFhclpVI
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Number None, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:35 PM (20 minutes ago)
well no but I did have to suppress some chuckles during charlize's FATHER scene
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
metalstorm: the destruction of jared-syn in 3D
I saw this and "Spacehunter" in the theaters, in 3D.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
parasite is charles band's 3D masterpiece, metalstorm was truly a step down for him
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
nothing better than the pipe gag in parasite imo
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
we have now appropriately calibrated the discussion for the remainder of this thread
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
haha i totally laughed out loudi laughed spontaneously (as opposed to wryly or knowingly or whatever) a few times
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't laugh, but I did sit there thinking to myself, "Say it . . . say 'father' . . . he's your father . . . everyone has guessed already . . . JUST SAY IT FOR GOD'S SAKE ALREADY."
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
"What if your creator told you the same thing?""That'd be disappointing!" David glares
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
I was assuming he was her old lover
Weyland: "He's the closest thing to a son I'll ever have!"
CUT TO CHARLIZE GLARING
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
Really enjoyed watching this although there is just so much wrong with it, I think I had to admit to myself this was going to be a pile of Lindeloffal the first time someone said 'this is what I CHOOSE to believe', arg gtfo
― kinder, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
enjoyed my prometheus experience. It was shiny. Def laughed at goofy scripting- mostly affectionately so. Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.
there were some lovely mysteries but mostly a lot of questions around how it was possible for these people to get food into their mouths and remember to breathe, much less run vast corporations and run science expeditions across the universe.
most things can be blamed on the script, but a lot can definitely be blamed on the editing, if not the direction. multiple subplots could have been eliminated or tweaked just enough to not be flapping around like vestigial appendages.
didn't sweat the science and enjoyed not having any clear answers, knowing that the idiot humans could be very wrong about most of their assumptions. I hear walt is scheduled to come back in Prometheus cubed
gonna watch it again on IMAX 3D
― Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Movie works well, retroactively, when I pretend all human characters escaped from some sort of asylum for morons.
Earth, iirc
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
"I'm a space biologist. I didn't sign up on this mission to an alien planet just to investigate the bodies of an alien race. My main motiovation for my sudden disinterest is that I think the space geoplogist is cool and I'm going to follow him around and be his buddy."
― Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
"I'm a space geologist with advanced mapping technologies, but I got lost because no one thought to put an app on my iphone."
― Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
Is Charles Band still alive? I need him to make a quickie ripoff of this.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link