R.I.P. Ray Bradbury

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No-one else liked the TV miniseries of The Martian Chronicles, but I loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEMWtyAKRhQ

RIP, the Golden Age writers are almost all gone now aren't they?

A++++++ would deal to again (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think a bunch of people around here DID like it.

Pohl is still around.

ha i remember watching that martian chronicles miniseries as a kid and being ... disappointed. but maybe it's good!

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I remember the miniseries was shown just a few months after the fourth-grade reading I mentioned and I was very, very hyped for it; my parents let me stay up to watch it all. One of the first times I was ever disappointed that they didn't 'film the book,' but you have to learn at some point. I'm sure it comes across as clunky in parts now but I'm glad they did it, hell, I'm still surprised they did it!

I found it very interesting, when I got around to reading Rock Hudson's official biography/autobiography years later, that there's absolutely no mention of it at all in there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

in that still, it just looks like a Martian guested on an episode of McMillan and Wife.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

Here was a recent mention: The 1970's Science Fiction Movie Poll

I'm thinking about the intro segments to that Ray Bradbury Theater (Ray Bradbury Presents?) anthology show from the 80s, where RB sits surrounded by all these crazy toys and pieces of art. 'I just look around and find my inspiration...'

The most memorable episode from that series for me was the one where the kid meets a scary old hobo in a rail car who talks to him about the savagery of the ol' cavemen...

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

the something wicked movie is truncated and conventionalized and the two kids aren't very good but jason robards (as will's dad the fearfully aging town librarian) and jonathan pryce (as MR. DARK) are both great and the movie kinda naturally recenters on them. they have a totally great scene together when mr. dark offers will's dad his youth in exchange for betraying the kids, and offers him one less year removed for each few seconds he hesitates, it is torture porn but just w/ talking.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody on this thread liked the miniseries: Ray Bradbury's _The Martian Chronicles_

pam grier, too, in something wicked!

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a sign of how specific and towering Bradbury was that I was convinced 'The Ugly Little Boy' was by him until I checked just now and discovered it was Asimov. It just SEEMS like it would be a perfect Bradbury story.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for that link to the thread there, James Redd, had almost forgotten about that. But a lot of the comments on the miniseries there are positive!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Something that really made me happy decades ago was reading in Arthur C. Clarke's autobiography how much he loved "The Crowd."

You're welcome, Ned. Sorry, but I can't read whole threads carefully anymore, I have moved down the message board life cycle chain as described by Tom in his paper.

I always had a special place in my heart for The Man Upstairs.

The TV version from Rad Bradbury Theater is excellent as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Mv1Lzsyus

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Meantime, the things I learn -- so Deadmau5's latest single is (and is inspired by)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUAq4aVTjY

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ray Bradbury meets Groucho Marx. Crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3B1lYtTJQI

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

He makes an interesting appearance in this book: http://howtowreckanicebeach.com/

man, i loved this guy. reading 'the fog horn' at 9 or whatever was one of the more mindblowing moments of my reading life. i still don't know how he made a lonely dinosaur tearing down a lighthouse seem so poetic and beautiful and sad.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

There is a mention of him in Ballard's intro to his complete short stories that is quoted in the Guardian obit
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/jun/06/ray-bradbury

At its best, in Borges, Ray Bradbury and Edgar Allan Poe, the short story is coined from precious metal, a glint of gold that will glow for ever in the deep purse of your imagination

David Brin in Salon:

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/06/ray_bradbury_american_optimist/singleton/

It's very likely I first became aware of Bradbury by seeing him on the network moon-landing coverage.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

JL, I have to read Moby-Dick first.

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius)

doing it now and easier than you think

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

somehow i'd never read 'the veldt' before. jesus, that's great.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Great summer reading. Like curling up with a stack of comic books and Ray Bradbury. RIP.

they have a totally great scene together when mr. dark offers will's dad his youth in exchange for betraying the kids, and offers him one less year removed for each few seconds he hesitates, it is torture porn but just w/ talking.

That scene blew my mind when I was 12, and now that I'm older, it blows my mind even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmRdHVkqS_k

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, the Golden Age writers are almost all gone now aren't they?

― A++++++ would deal to again (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:49 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Pohl is still around.

― I don't know what to read so I am reading it here (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:52 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Jack Vance is still with us as well. Even older than Bradbury.

Guess what? They crucified him. (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology. So great. Really, really wish all my old Bradbury paperbacks weren't in storage in another state right now.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Can never forget this (affectionate?) jab from The Simpsons:

Martin Prince: As your president, I would demand a science-fiction library, featuring an ABC of the genre. Asimov, Bester, Clarke.
Student: What about Ray Bradbury?
Martin Prince: I'm aware of his work...

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology.

Oh my goodness yes. "The Man Upstairs" and "The Jar" are worth the price of admission by themselves. For some reason "The Next In Line" has always stuck in my mind. It's vague and abstract, the plot more a sketch than a drawing, and that is exactly its strength.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

The October Country is his most surreal book, I'd say. And probably my favorite. Though you can't mess much with The Illustrated Man.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone read Arkham's Dark Carnival collection (o.g. version of October Country)? How do they compare?

Guess what? They crucified him. (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

xp (Unless you try to make a movie starring Rod Steiger out of it. No thank you, but an E for effort.)

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

That Brin piece just reminded me of 'All Summer in a Day,' which I'd almost forgotten. I am positive that's the first Bradbury I'd ever read, back in third grade or so. Between that and a lot of Charles Schulz you got as perfect a description of child-on-child cruelty as you could imagine.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

'zero hour' scared the hell out of me when i first read it. funny how many bradbury stories seem to turn on the idea that very young children naturally resent and hate their parents.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

monster_xero, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

his last ever article: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/04/120604fa_fact_bradbury

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

Chris S, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

xp I guess that's a fitting send-off. RIP

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Back in the 1970s when Laguna Beach was still a weirdo artist beach town and not a MTV meme, there was a bookstore called Fahrenheit 451. The store carried a lot of counter-culture and beat lit along with lots of sci-fi and it always a hang-out for me. Ray Bradbury would always come by a couple times a year to read, sign books, and just yak with people - perpetually bemused that someone named a store after one of his books. I went to see him there... I was ten years old and completely in love with The Golden Apples of the Sun short stories. First time I stood in line to meet anyone - he signed my book and then said ""with a book, you'll always have a friend." Never forgot that.

Anyway, next to his writing perhaps Bradbury's most important lesson is in how to be a cranky old man and yet still be cool and enthusiastic.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology. So great.

― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh my goodness yes. "The Man Upstairs" and "The Jar" are worth the price of admission by themselves. For some reason "The Next In Line" has always stuck in my mind. It's vague and abstract, the plot more a sketch than a drawing, and that is exactly its strength.

...The October Country is his most surreal book, I'd say. And probably my favorite. Though you can't mess much with The Illustrated Man.

― cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


otm. love the october country, one of my favorite short story collections. a while back, i read a few of gabriel garcia marquez' earliest stories, and was struck by how much the vibe reminded me of certain stories in the october country, especially "the next in line". that air of haunted stillness, morbid daylight.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Julio Cortázar mines that territory very well, too.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

a roundup of ray bradbury videos, tributes, etc that i just did:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/06/remembering-ray-bradbury/

geeta, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Well done.

the future was built into the machinery of the present

Was it William Gibson that said that the future is already here, it just isn't well-distributed yet?

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

There's a copy of The Martian Chronicles on the surface Mars.

Attached to the deck of the lander (next to the US flag) is the "Phoenix DVD", compiled by the Planetary Society. The disc contains Visions of Mars, a multimedia collection of literature and art about the Red Planet. Works include the text of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds (and the radio broadcast by Orson Welles), Percival Lowell's Mars as the Abode of Life with a map of his proposed canals, Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Green Mars. There are also messages directly addressed to future Martian visitors or settlers from, among others, Carl Sagan and Arthur C. Clarke. In 2006, The Planetary Society collected a quarter million names submitted through the Internet and placed them on the disc, which claims, on the front, to be "the first library on Mars." This Phoenix DVD is similar to the Voyager Golden Record that was sent on the Voyager 1 & 2 missions.

The Phoenix DVD is made of a special silica glass designed to withstand the Martian environment, lasting for hundreds (if not thousands) of years on the surface while it awaits discoverers.

http://www.planetary.org/assets/images/society/messages/phoenix_dvd_on-mars.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Wow. Beats the hell out of those gold CDs they used to sell. What a rip-off those were.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

"All Summer in a Day" changed my world, too

I read both that and "The Veldt" in my brother's Great Books compilations

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I read Bradbury as a kid but I don't remember.

Where should I start?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

The October Country.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link


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