inland empire was my first-thought-best-thought #3, and this seems like a pretty reasonable placement for it. scary as hell, but probably not most people's idea of a "horror movie".
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Congrats, Eric, for resisting the image that is burned into so many retinas.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
lots of mine are showing up today, hoping this doesn't result in a barren top 20. especially happy to see black christmas (too low), possibly the highest rated straight-up unambiguous horror on my ballot(#4).
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
I don't even like horror movies and yet for some reason this is my favorite movie list thread. Amazing stills, lots of stuff I've never heard of.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
oh, I guess The Kingdom will count for this jonner, eh
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:06 AM (8 minutes ago)
pretty sure it doesn't count because it was tv show and not a movie.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
xxp - i think the cruel joke he is playing is that the smartest characters in the show (the ones with the most knowledge) have Downs Syndrome. i think it's more about LVT's misanthropy.
yeah, i guess the question is how deliberately perverse we think he's being in his choices
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of Kingdom, somebody tell me that Stephen King's remake was shit so I don't have to watch it. Thanks in advance.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's Lars Von Trier, i'd be surprised if any of his perverse choices weren't deliberate!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
I chose one from 3 Pillbox submitted, and none of them were THAT image.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
i'm happy just assuming it's shit. and that we won't see udo keir emerging from SPOILAR.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Well, that's three of my top five (Inland Empire, The Tenant, and Creepshow) that have shown up thus far. One of the others will be a no-show, but I certainly hope my #1 at least cracked the top 20.
I guess I can understand people dismissing other Lynch films as horror, but dismissing IE just feels reactionary.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
there were a couple of movies I love that I voted for, despite their being on the borderline of horror
inland empire was one I just couldn't justify
movies that aren't scary can be horror films, so this is the converse example then - terrifying, but not necessarily a horror film
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Will Wicker Man crack the top 20? I know we have an appointment, I just don't know what time it is.
― game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
i dismissed Inland Empire because for me, it was a literal snoozefest ... i did manage to see almost 2 hours of it though!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't count because it was tv show and not a movie.
nah, it was shown in theaters in 'Murrica, that's all that should count! Plus there's already been at least2 made-for-TV things, Threads and Duel.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
that said, I don't complain about IE's placement here and expect there is another lynch in our future
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Inland Empire was the only Lynch film i really considered 'horror' enough to vote for and was my no.4, i think. I'd say it's comfortably my favourite American film of the last fifteen years, or so.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think the second half of "The Descent" is that bad, but the first half is intense that when things go horror movie it seems totally unnecessary. One of those movies where the original ending is absolutely essential, and it also helps to have seen it in a dark theater with people, new ending or no.
I grew up watching "Freaks," never thought it was scary. And in fact, it wasn't even until much later in life that I even considered it at all exploitative, let alone controversial. The "freaks," as such, are so sweet and sympathetic. And when they're played for revenge scares, you get the feeling the freaks are themselves playing it up for effect. And damn does their victim deserve their vengeance.
Somehow never seen "Inland Empire," even though I've seen everything else by the guy!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
xp - i would've voted for the Kingdom had it been nominated.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
I completely lost interest in Lynch after "Lost Highway" and have seen nothing since. And the only things I really liked from that were Robert Loggia beating up the tailgater, and Robert Blake.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:22 PM (23 seconds ago)
you missed the long debate about how TV movies are allowed, but not TV shows or miniseries
however, if salem's lot places....
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
I completely lost interest in Lynch after "Lost Highway"
High Five!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's what i mean. sure, they seem to know a lot, but that only encourages us to speculate about how much they really understand (whether or not we wish to), draws attention to their relatively flat line readings. it seems a subtle barb aimed at the "simplicity" of goodness, relative to more entertainingly complex evil.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
i've made only one attempt to watch inland empire and barely made it a half hour before throwing up my hands in exasperation. fuckin' rabbits.
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Lost Highway is garbage but Mulholland is good fun. You're missing out.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
xxp - or to speculate that "God is retarded"
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
inland empire much better in a theater where you are trapped for the duration, turning it off after 30 minutes is like ending yr shroom trip cuz yr stomach got upset
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
og ending is SO much better, even tho I quite like the iconic image of the lead actress emerging from the gopher-hole.
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
are there rabbits in the first half hour of IE?
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
there's already been at least2 made-for-TV things, Threads and Duel.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:22 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
TV movies count, TV series don't count. Though I have a couple on my ballot that could be considered borderline, I strongly count them as short-ish films, not just shows.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
see, I am totally on-board w/ a committed viewing of IE, but I think alone in a dark room might actually be a more appropriate setting than a crowded theatre.
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
i thought that the OG ending had that bit, but also had other bits after
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
xpost So long as it's at night and you ate the key to your couch.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah, that too
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
contenderizer, on second thought, you are totally otm re: descent ending(s).
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, wasn't Inland Empire an expansion of Lynch's web shorts? Isn't that where the bunnies come from?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
OG ending ends (I think) with gopher hole. New ending keeps going to get in a random last shock scare on the highway. I think. Been a while ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
(The Descent, I'm talking about)
hmmm, what an arbitrary TV categorization thingy (The Kingdom Part I is what, 4.5 hrs?)
anyway you guys are into the recent crap now, so zzzzzzzzzz
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
The Descent was released in North America with approximately a minute cut from the end. In the American cut, Sarah escapes from the cave and sees Juno, but the film does not cut back to the cave.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
yes, all the recent stuff like freaks and cabinet of dr caligari
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
"Ah, the Necro-NOM-icon, my favorite COOKBOOK!"
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31. THE EVIL DEADSam Raimi, USA, 1981(501 points, 17 votes)
It's kind of related to the "pictures of you and famous people" thread. Me and my husband met Bruce Campbell last year and he was very funny, nice, etc. My husband was going to have his picture taken with Bruce and Bruce asked me if I wanted to be in the picture. I made this disgusted face and said something like "Ugh, no" because I really hate having my picture taken -- and then I realized he thought I was revolted at the idea of having my picture taken with him. So somewhere out there Bruce Campbell thinks I'm a haughty bitch.― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, October 20, 2003 4:39 PM (8 years ago)The first one is funny by accident. The sequels were intentionally comedic.― Anthony (Anthony F), Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:35 PM (8 years ago)The original Evil Dead was funny and looks it and I'm not talking about "so cheesy it's hilarious" funny but "oh my God some of this slapstick rivals Tati" funny.― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:08 PM (8 years ago)
The first one is funny by accident. The sequels were intentionally comedic.― Anthony (Anthony F), Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:35 PM (8 years ago)
The original Evil Dead was funny and looks it and I'm not talking about "so cheesy it's hilarious" funny but "oh my God some of this slapstick rivals Tati" funny.― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:08 PM (8 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
that Nicole story is still hilarious
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
You can tell a lot about a person based on whether they prefer Evil Dead 1 or 2.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
Well, in total, but it's made up of several smaller episodes. I mean, they even have LVT appear at the end as a delineator of each one to tell us to tune in again. Do you think of Buffy the Vampire Slayer as a theatrical epic?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
You can tell a lot about a person based on whether they prefer Evil Dead 1 or 2
This is so incredibly true. I kind of don't fully trust the people who choose the other one from the one I choose.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
A million xposts to piscesx - I had the briefest instant of thinking people had voted for that House, too.
Voted for the Descent at #39. I don't remember being put off by any shift in the movie. I just remember being freaked out.
Freaks was my #13. It's worth noting that Elvira and Jenny Lee Snow and Schlitzie were circus performers when the movie was made, so I don't think being in a movie was any more exploitative than their daily lives. Also, the movie is really humanizing in a way that I imagine being a side show attraction at a circus was not.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
This better mean that ED2 is top 20, because this is pretty low!
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
And, of course, those who choose Army of Darkness over both are not even relevant.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link