I like Hopkins in it, but it's not a believable character in any way. It's an amped up caricature, and it works as that. Just whether you decide to accept that or not.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
"Nothing turns my stomach like sonam-PUKE-lism!"
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36. THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARIRobert Wiene, Germany, 1920(467 points, 18 votes)
The Pantry of Dr. Caligari― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, May 6, 2003 10:45 PM (9 years ago)florence and the cabinet of dr caligari.― second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:26 PM (6 months ago)The Clavinet of Dr. Caligari― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:57 PM (6 years ago)
florence and the cabinet of dr caligari.― second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:26 PM (6 months ago)
The Clavinet of Dr. Caligari― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:57 PM (6 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
wrong director/year info in the post
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
xpost I think it's hard to take Lecter now because that Hopkins performance became such a punchline, and now it feels unnecessarily ott. but I dunno, at the time I thought he was straight out of the book. for a long time that was the only thing I liked about the movie.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
xp hey, there's a whole article about it: Jonathan Demme and the Close-Up
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Robert Wiener, Germany, 1920
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
I only saw the top quarter of that Caligari still when I refreshed and was all like, "Oh, no fucking way did The Crow place in this thing."
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
One thing I love about A Hopkins' speech in SOTL is the way he uses an alveolar flap instead of a retroflex lateral /r/ in "Clarice." V memorable!
― game of crones (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost sweet, thanks Phil!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Stephen Sayadian, United States, 1989
xxxp
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
^ this is otm, but so is this: xpost I think it's hard to take Lecter now because that Hopkins performance became such a punchline, and now it feels unnecessarily ott
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
(really shoulda went with triple-x-post. missed opportunities ;_;)
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Tim Burton and Johnny Depp should remake "Caligari." That would be a really good idea.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
for me to poop on.
Thanks for that article, Phil D.!
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
didn't Hopkins do kinda the same voice for his dummy in Magic? (not that I've ever seen that, but I heard the radio spots)
I made a thread once where I complained about this kind of character
The genius serial killer, or me?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I think all serial killer movies more or less make me roll my eyes, save I guess "Henry" or "Man Bites Dog" or whatever. But the super-genius serial killer ones particularly chafe.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Jinx.
Dr. Morbius: Genius Serial Killer.
If "Caligari" taught me nothing else, it's that you can be a very effective soothsayer by predicting peoples' deaths, then killing them yourself.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
I have mad respect for the brain scene in Hannibal.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I liked this album a lot in 9th grade:
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― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
last thought: The other thing I love about SOTL is how for the most part it's such a *quiet* serial-killer movie. All those intimate closeups, quiet conversations, no-one's really shouty or hotheaded...and yet it's still intense as hell.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
re: wiene
His most memorable feature films are the 1920 horror film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and Raskolnikow (1923), an adaptation of Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment, both of which had a deep influence on the German cinema of that time.
<3 Caligari, esp the insane set design, & am curious about his version of Crime & Punishment
― "horror shirt" (Pillbox), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I made the mistake of reading the book "Hannibal" when it came out. It is a sloppy piece of shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
predicting peoples' deaths, then killing them yourself.
The Dead Pool of Dr Caligari
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
It is, but I kinda wish the movie "Hannibal" had kept the tank full of eels, and the bodybuilding lesbian sister, and all the other craziness. If you're gonna go Grand Guignol, go for it, you know?
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
lol xp
BTW this book is awesome reading:
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― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Harris totally jumped the shark with Hannibal, in terms of the story. But that brain scene is still kind of great on its own. I kinda wish they'd done more with the pigs, lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
The voice of the dummy in Magic actually gave me a headache. By the end of the movie, I had to mute every scene involving a conversation with that stupid thing. I don't know about his glottal stops or whatever.
Voted for Caligari and love it. Pillbox OTM about the insane sets. I saw a theatrical adaptation using all puppets once that retained that style of set design and was almost as creepy as the movie, but not quite.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
fixed the Caligari info
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Hermann Warm! Walter Reimann! Walter Rohrig!
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Boo on not retaining the weiner.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
ha
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
didn't vote for it, but can support silence of the lambs as a horror film, in part because of stuff like this
http://www.visualsoc.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/SilenceOfTheLambs_1_20_03_RachaelG1.png
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
he said retaining the weiner
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
As much as I unabashedly love the film version of Hannibal, it's also one of the most vastly-improved adaptations I've ever seen. Because the book is insultingly abysmal.
(Although I do wish they'd kept the original ending, as little sense as it made.)
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
That still reminded me that Demme gets away with the double-switch twice in that movie - the scene VG mentioned above, and this one, with the whole "body on the elevator/body in the ambulance" switch.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Probably goes w/o saying, but this is a master class in intercutting, not only in the wrong-house switcheroo preceding the climax, but also in the face-switching scene.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
"When you need little PIECES of MIND, come on over in my HAUSU! -- SCARY Jane Girls"
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35. HOUSE [aka HAUSU]Nobuhiko Obayashi, Japan, 1977(467 points, 19 votes)
you could say it's a Japanese analog to Suspiria in that it's got the same second-by-second total freedom in the plot twists, the colors & backgrounds are surreal and gorgeous, pause any frame of the film and just try to figure out what you're seeing, and that even though it's not overtly pretentious, the details & non sequiturs & stylistic quirks do tip the scales towards art film as much as horror, but in the best and most entertaining way possible. I also liked it as much as I like Suspiria and that movie's one of my favorites (though Hausu is more about the c-c-cute than the slashing)― Milton Parker, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:20 AM (2 years ago) Completely crackers.― Hinklepicker, Friday, February 12, 2010 3:52 AM (2 years ago)Four weeks ago, I'd never heard of the film. Now every day brings eight new breathless blog posts. I'm sure it's great and batshit and all, but I'm kinda sick of hearing about it tbh.― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:03 AM (2 years ago)Me and my friend got in a hueg argument because i dragged him to see this in the theater on the last day of ATP. He felt duped because I described it as a "horror movie" which he claims it isn't.― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 2, 2012 7:57 AM (1 month ago)It's totally a horror movie! It just happens to be a lot of other things as well, but it's horror at the core no question.― light dipping assholes (jjjusten), Monday, April 2, 2012 12:19 PM (1 month ago)i dunno, i've gotten in like screaming matches with people who think the sole purpose of horror movies is to be scary― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 2, 2012 1:45 PM (1 month ago)
Completely crackers.― Hinklepicker, Friday, February 12, 2010 3:52 AM (2 years ago)
Four weeks ago, I'd never heard of the film. Now every day brings eight new breathless blog posts. I'm sure it's great and batshit and all, but I'm kinda sick of hearing about it tbh.― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:03 AM (2 years ago)
Me and my friend got in a hueg argument because i dragged him to see this in the theater on the last day of ATP. He felt duped because I described it as a "horror movie" which he claims it isn't.― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 2, 2012 7:57 AM (1 month ago)
It's totally a horror movie! It just happens to be a lot of other things as well, but it's horror at the core no question.― light dipping assholes (jjjusten), Monday, April 2, 2012 12:19 PM (1 month ago)
i dunno, i've gotten in like screaming matches with people who think the sole purpose of horror movies is to be scary― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 2, 2012 1:45 PM (1 month ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
well, xpost. xpost, indeed.
Poor Charles Napier. (xpost)
I thought House was fun for a while.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
A+++
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, great to see Hausu place so high! Wonderful and strange. Also (I think) the only one to feature in both my comedy and horror ballots (not to give too much away, but I went for ED rather than EDII in this poll).
― emil.y, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Hausu revival is the latest phenomenon that points to why I bet that whatever genre nerds rave about -- esp if it's "wild" -- will do absolutely nothing for me.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
love the cabinet of dr. caligari, first of my votes to show up today. the kino video dvd also includes a substantial chunk of footage from genuine, wiene's partially lost vampire film. i like genuine quite a bit, though it's clearly inferior to the cabinet and more romantic fantasy than horror.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
xpost I'll refrain from "posts very much in character"ing that one
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
100 Stupid Movies About Ridiculously Improbable Serial Killers
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
Hausu placing this high might be the impetus I need to make me finally watch the damn thing after sitting on the DVD for over a year.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
this is poll is kinda wacky, I like that. non-US and pre-70s films having a pretty good showing.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
I've never seen House. can someone explain wtf is going on in that still
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link