always british
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that too.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
tbf in the books westeros feels like a pretty clear britain analogue
― max, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
apart from the olives...
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it starts off as britain and then grrm squishes a bit of france and spain/north africa on the bottom
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
it felt like he expanded the size of westeros as the books grew - first one was england, second was like england/france/spain, latter couple were 'generally europe-sized'
― remy bean, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but it's a cliche of fantasy literature as much as it is of fantasy film & television.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
now it's the size of South America apparently
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
He's stated that Westeros is the size of South America, room for plenty of diversity. Don't forget the vast swamplands in the middle which don't really have a clear analogue.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
Oh xpost
basically the scale is just totally fucked up. the travel time between places is way way smaller than south america size would suggest
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
maybe they have super horses
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
'horse' is the westerosi word for light aircraft
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
i do wonder about scale and distance in westeros. it seems that information and even people travel fairly easily between king's landing and winterfell, but online sources put the distance between the two at some 1,500 miles, with another 600 miles north from winterfell to the wall. though a carrier pigeon could make that distance inside a week, 1,500 miles is some two month's journey on horseback, half a year's travel time for a mounted army.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Well the ravens are pretty close to magical, at least.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
not everyone puts as much thought as Tolkien into these things
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
I skipped through Robb and his lady friend, AND skipped Jon Snow in Hoth.
If anyone has the most annoying accent in this show it's Jaqen.
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
― Number None, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:27 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
def one of the winning qualities of GOT imho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
i get super annoyed by the "fantasy land = generic UK at some unspecified point in non-history" cliche― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer)
OTMFM. Just once I'd like a fantasy land where everyone speaks in thick Bronx accents
― phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
ay, look at dem fuckin dragons
― phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
wintuh's comin'
Kind of a terrible idea but It sort of worked in Last Temptation,
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i mean i get that that's what the genre's built on, what fantasy fans want. they want knights in shining armor and european-style castles and fire-haired maidens in green velvet dresses with vaguely celtic-y gold needlework around the collar - plus magic and dragons and all. nothing wrong with all that, but it does get a little old.
honestly, i find the praise for GoT's approach to the genre a little odd. seems to me that martin's stripped away the most interesting parts of the genre (mythic simplicity, the creative licence granted by magic, imaginative world-building) in favor of its most humdrum aspects (melodrama, faux-britishness).
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
antidote to all of this ^ is of course Ursula K. LeGuin's Earthsea
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
I pretty much stand aside when the conversation turns to how different ASoIaF is from all those other fantasy books (which a right-thinking individual need never consider reading). I know I'm not gonna change any minds on that front...
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
ive never read any of these fantasy books but i have seen a lot of the movies and contedizers delineation of GOTs violation of genre taboos is needless to say extremely wide right
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
well I'd hesitate to go so far as to say it's a ~deconstruction~ of the genre, but on of its quality that I really love is the way it's examining the inherent bullshit within the notions of honour and heroism in this world and, maybe, by extension, the genre as a whole. being really extreme but if the genre norm is Excalibur this is more interested in being Lancelot Du Lac.
xpost
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
i agree that GoT doesn't deconstruct the genre. to present a gritty, amoral alternative to the shining, golden heroes we find in the the most naively idealistic sort of fantasy fiction is certainly a valid approach, but it's hardly novel at this point.
also, i don't find the television series at all averse to traditional notions of honor, decency and heroism. the characters seem pretty clearly to break down into "good guy" and "bad guy" groups based on their possession of these qualities.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
but varys basically broke it down to an extent when he talked to ned when he was jailed below the castle in season one.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
So yeah this week's. Fuck BB King's House Of Undying, I'm tired of waiting for it. Don't care anymore.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
omg yes @ this; driving me crazy.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
would watch an entire season of Tyrion & Varys
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
the accents only really bugged me when like Renly and Stannis, brothers, have totally different regional accents
― catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Next week's episode looks promising, at least!!
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
Written by Martin, directed by Neil Marshall of Dog Soldiers/The Descent. Should be a good 'un alright
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
Gettin' that Helm's Deep feelin'.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit, i totally forgot it was Neil Marshall.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
!!!
I love Doomsday, it is such a batshit crazy movie.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
omg yay didn't know that
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.drexel.edu/now/features/archive/2012/May/Vampires-Thrones-Hobbit/
The course, simply titled “A Game of Thrones,” will explore the differences and similarities between the first book in the series and the first season of the HBO series based on it. It will be offered through the Pennoni Honors College on Thursday afternoons from 2:00 to 4:50. It promises to be just as epic as the tale it focuses on.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
omg I'm totally forwarding that to my father-in-law (he graduated from their engineering program)
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
Vampires-Thrones-Hobbits
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
Vampire thrones Hobbit, full story at 11.
Vampire Thrones for Hobbits, $9.99 one day only
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
Mixtape for after you get hardthroned
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
a solid liberal arts education.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
kingslayer finally escaping only to wind up in what looks like the same cage only moments later did not help.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, May 14, 2012 12:05 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm way behind here but ya wtf was up with THAT?
"you just have to DIE for me to escape!" *executes cunning escape* *is still captured 5 minutes later*
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
they left out the other 53 escape attempts, during one of which jaime distracted a guard by dressing as a beautiful lady and hitting him on the head with a frying pan
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1zgfmFI7e1r846v9o1_1280.jpghttp://slyoyster.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/PIMP.jpg
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
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^^
― Pot Leeedom (Leee), Friday, 25 May 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link