has a SLAY with words, etc
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't vote but SotD would have made my ballot.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
films that i voted for thusfar (12-for-45):
059. Cat People060. Vampyr061. M063. Shaun of the Dead067. Hour of the Wolf [Vargtimmen]071. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer075. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers [1956]077. Pan's Labyrinth082. Kwaidan080. Nosferatu: Phantom der Nacht090. Dressed To Kill093. Se7en
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
KJB's ethos works for him bcz he's seen everything. YMMV, DWH
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
my votes thus far:
061. M [1931, 312 points, 9 votes, 1 first-place vote]065. Mulholland Drive [2001, 299 points, 9 votes]066. The Innocents [1961, 298 points, 10 votes]070. Let's Scare Jessica to Death [1971, 272 points, 11 votes](tie). Drag Me To Hell [2009, 261 points, 9 votes]075. Creepshow [1982, 250 points, 10 votes]084. Near Dark [1987, 219 points, 10 votes]086. Witchfinder General [The Conqueror Worm] [1968, 209 points, 10 votes]089. Wolf Creek [2005, 205 points, 7 votes]096. May [2002, 186 points, 8 votes]100. Phantasm [1979, 175 points, 8 votes]
― Darin, Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
Could be, but I don't personally view the discovery and consumption of art as a race or a competition. I like to think that I'll still be discovering gems in my golden years. Plus I have no professional incentive to be massively coversant about any particular artform, so it's nice to relax my slacks and not feel any need to "keep up".
― Ninja Rap (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think you may have the notion that I'm artistically incurious, Morbs, which really isn't the case.
― Ninja Rap (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
nah I wouldn't assume that, bub
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
...but I am not going to risk Wm Castle-style cardiac arrest by watching new horror films in my dotage.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
"He died as he lived … talking about movies he never saw."
I just watched THREADS on YouTube. Yipes.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
took me a while to realize that upthread references to 'them' as one of the movies-too-scary-to-watch were not references to the giant atomic ant movie.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it's the French remake, iirc.
― Ninja Rap (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
not a remake unless joeks in which case n/m
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
them! was not remade as them which was remade as the strangers
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
1. wait, my Them vote was a vote for the giant atomic ant movie!
2. genre is less a verb than an adjective imo
― sarahell, Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
Personal wrap-up:Putting The Innocents, M, Vampyr and The Bride Of Frankenstein on the To Do list.
Contemplating to better store Ils deep down in a well or something instead of watching it someday.
Especially delighted to see Spoorloos place so high.It's very hard to put it in words the right way, but I still very vividly remember that distinct silence at the final scene that befell me, my brother and my father watching it on TV years ago. Never again experienced this phenomen of having a whole group of people in union being slapped by a film in such a way (on the other hand, I tend to watch my horror films on my own generally).
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Saturday, 19 May 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
When in doubt, it's generally safe to assume my posts are ill-formed joeks that no one but me will get/appreciate.
― Ninja Rap (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
# of films thus far by decade. assuming 70s will pull ahead as we get into the higher ranks.
30s - 440s - 450s - 260s - 570s - 680s - 990s - 400s - 1010s - 1
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
You're stealing my m.o.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
Putting The Innocents, M, Vampyr and The Bride Of Frankenstein on the To Do list.
sort of envy you
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Saturday, 19 May 2012 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
call me an idiot, but i enjoyed haute tension more than inside or martyrs. i even liked the conclusion, despite the fact that it's patently ridiculous.
This makes perfect sense to me. The ending of Haute Tension is so patently horrible and such a total cheat that it allows the viewer to lift themself guiltlessly away from the entire proceedings and go about their life unmarked, whereas the likes of Inside and Martyrs mark their viewers with an imprint of having been exposed. Which is why I unquestionably prefer the latter two to the former one, but we've been down this road in the last two threads.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
Also, KJB did not disappoint.
And I want to see Satantango again.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
Tho admittedly, I never want to see The Awful Truth again and I think it is decidedly not great, so maybe the theory is true after all.
Thx e.mily for doing the end-of-day roll call of titles. I had to run after posting today.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
ils(them) is not the endurance test that some seem to be making it out to be itt. it's no martyrs. watched it late and with a few beers in me but didn't hit half as hard as i was expecting from all the talk around it, i preferred the strangers tbh.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
so maybe the theory is true after all
where was a theory?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
The Strangers is underrated on ilx imo.
xp
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
Both Frankensteins, Cat People, The Innocents and The Vanishing from the latest bout. I voted for, that is.
I found Vampyr a bit of a bore, I'm afraid. And I must add M to my rental queue at some point.
― DavidM, Saturday, 19 May 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link
jesus fucking christ i can't believe i forgot to vote for this. so good.
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^
― man pipes blog (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
ils(them) is not the endurance test that someseem to be making it out to be itt. it's nomartyrs.
i'd agree but found ils much, much scarier. it's going for something a little more trad horror rather than 'endurance test' (and largely succeeding).
― original bgm, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
Do we think The Strangers is gonna make it? If it's not the best straight-up American horror flick of the '00s, it's at least in contention.
― Simon H., Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
(I gave more points to Bug but I know that one's hopeless.)
― Simon H., Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
I think that The Strangers did what it was doing so well that when it lost its footing a bit towards the end (it a very particular moment when the POV shifted slightly from the invaded to the invader and I was all like, NO NO NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING MR. DIRECTOR MAN NOOOOO), it kinda deflated the tension balloon for me. I probably should've still voted for it (like I did for that other 2000s movie that was super-effective up until its awful misstep) but I didn't.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
IMO the only misstep that counts in The Strangers is the very last shot.
― Simon H., Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
I watched The Seventh Victim last night, something I've had sitting on the shelf for a while. Quite a striking film, although I drifted for a few minutes in the middle (not the film's fault--par for the course when I watch something at home) and missed a plot point or two. Did Bettie Page take her look from Jean Brooks? Fantasticly atmospheric photography, and a clear influence on Psycho and (maybe) Rosemary's Baby.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Watched Dressed to Kill right after, and I'm second-guessing myself a bit on that one. Iconic villain and some inventive direction (and some that's just kind of jerking around); performances are really hit or miss. (I think Allen does the best.) Seeing it in a packed theatre right when it came out was great.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
concerned at all these people who forgot to or nearly but didn't vote for the strangers.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
^^good luck parsing that.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'd love to see The Strangers get a still and crypt-keeper line, but this thread will still reveal a handful or so of ilxors really liked it whether or not it places.
― da croupier, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
Wicked, Wicked (1973) wasn't on the ballot, was it? It's a great giallo-style slasher in which the whole film is delivered in "Duo-Vision" split-screen. It's used in endlessly inventive ways, not just to show simultaneous action in diff locations, but also 2 angles on the same scene, or even what's going on inside the head of a character. Overwhelming to watch to say the least and hard as hell to find in the U.S. (I saw it on late-nite TCM), but well worth seeking out. Let's add it to the nominees when we do this again in 2022.
― The Thnig, Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
2nd half problems erased all the good will I had for the strangers, alan n otm re: ils, a more economical and solid film throughout
watched martyrs again last night. forgot how heartbreaking it is, and how good mylene jampanoi is in it. aside from the shocks and violence, there's a tragic sadness saturating the first 30 minutes, something that gets overlooked when ppl talk about it. it's not just grue and sadism, it's a story of desperate, broken people seeking peace in all the wrong places. the way audience sympathies are shifted back and forth between the characters is subtle and well-managed, and it's these sympathies that give the film its emotional punch.
it's also rare to see a horror movie without a sense of normalcy. there's usually a fall from grace, a transportation from order into chaos, but in martyrs we start in a living hell and go downwards from there. alan n also otm about the how the film is almost psychedelic in its effect - the grim stretch at the end puts me in a near trance state, an involuntary sympathetic response that echoes the main character's journey, giving the conclusion a surreal, physically palpable hall-of-mirrors feel. for those who surrender to it, a powerful viewing experience.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
Whenever people talk about that movie, I think I saw a different movie. Maybe I did!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I have that problem with Mulholland Dr.
Is there much carnage in The Strangers? I almost bought a cheap used copy this afternoon, but I've developed such an aversion to gore the past few years--even the elevator scene in Dressed to Kill had me looking away last night--I ended up putting it back (and buying a box with The Wolf Man and three others instead).
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
Nah, there isn't much gore in Strangers. The ending is pretty bleak, though.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
we often reject the manipulations of films we don't respect, making them a pass/fail proposition. weird example but the one that comes to mind for me is kramer vs kramer. can't deny that it's emotionally affecting but it leaves me feeling resentful. as much as I enjoy martyrs, it's clear to me why someone would hate it, even aside from standard issue repulsion at its content.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
It occurs to me that it would be helpful to have a ratings system for gore. Like, the gore in The Strangers is maybe a 4 or a 5 (just a little beyond what they're likely to show on a non-CSI-ish broadcast television show). Whereas some scenes I've seen from CSI-ish shows are actually something like an 8 or a 9 (I happened upon a scene from that Dana Delaney medical examiner show where she pulled back the skin on this dead woman's head and used a bone saw to cut the top half of her skull off, uncovering a missing brain in her brainpan. It was seriously gruesome.)
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
xp to josh
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
The Gore-meter: what would you give The Texas Chainsaw Massacre? It's amazing how it achieves such intensity without actually showing much--Edwin Neal cutting Franklin's arm is probably the most graphic image in the film in terms of actual blood spilled.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
damn, E3, so otm re: martyrs
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link