The Haunt Of Fear: ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Results Thread

Aside from Die Hard, it probably is my favorite Christmas movie, though.

Mulholland is a TV pilot with an "it was all a dream" tack-on finish.

― da croupier, Friday, May 18, 2012 1:07 PM (5 minutes ago)

and casablanca was a hackneyed story worked over by a hodgepodge of screenwriters scrambling to rush the movie into the theaters. in both cases the means of production doesn't amount to much when compared to the finished product.

if you're going to try and dignify mulholland dr worship with a historical precedent, it should probably be Wizard Of Oz.

"dignify"

I'm with Edward III. Gremlins is a fantasy and a comedy, but it is still a horror movie. Made for children.

I think a reasonable, arbitrary cutoff point along the 'horror spectrum' is if a film is squarely marketed toward children. I mean, I never had a Martyrs lunchbox. Yhat said, iirc it was the release of both Gremlins and Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom & the ensuing parental uproar which led directly to the PG-13 rating becoming a thing.

"More like DON'T WHOP ME NOW!"

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63. SHAUN OF THE DEAD
Edgar Wright, UK, 2004
(301 points, 11 votes)

Also I am willing to bet that between us we know every single person in that film. ONE OF THOSE ZOMBIES COULD HAVE BEEN ME you know!!!
― sarah not at work, Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:08 AM (8 years ago)

"even zombie flicks can have multiple Star Wars references."
Wha? Please don't make me dislike this film now.
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:15 PM (7 years ago)

This film is better than other films.
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, January 17, 2005 4:27 PM (7 years ago)

Ugh, fuck off.

E3 dignified the shit out of that movie

well, i had to make amends for not voting for Shaun in the comedy thread ...

I was afraid this was gonna show up. Sigh. All right.

Another movie I totally support but didn't vote for.

I voted for Shaun of the Dead (in the comedy poll).

"dignify"

sorry, but it's pretty tragic seeing all the eberty "what did lynch mean?" ponderances about mulholland dr when the director himself admits it was an open-ended intro he slammed a cop-out ending onto. If you still enjoy it, great, but when people are like BEST MOVIE EVER...idgi, sorry

the other reason I have respect for gremlins - at 13 I was a hardcore horror fan, having already seen dawn of the dead, last house on the left, halloween, friday the 13th, eraserhead, and a ton of other v scary movies. but gremlins still won me over, and I ended up going back to see it a couple of times in the theater. its love of grue and willingness to go to some real places (e.g. cates' santa story) helped.

that said, if you humps try to place ghostbusters in this thing we will have words

Remember v little abt Gremlins cept Phoebe Cates chimney monologue

havent seen SotD

i cut shaun of the dead early on cuz it's a straight-up comedy (albeit one with impressively serious horror trappings). made the same decision about dead alive, though i did come very close to voting for that one. it's not like there's a clear line or anything, though. i did vote for creepshow, after all.

dead alive is such a blast. I can't imagine it won't place.

"You had to know OLD FRANK would have a slot on this countdown ALL SEWN UP!"

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62. FRANKENSTEIN
James Whale, USA, 1931
(301 points, 13 votes)

I want to make a movie called "Drunkenstein"
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Wednesday, July 6, 2011 1:25 PM (10 months ago)

IIRC there are a number of stills shot on the set that aren't actually scenes from the movie.
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:33 PM (1 year ago)

you think it takes talent to play frankenstein?? it's all, all MAKEUP and, and GRUNTING

This would be the first of two films that I voted for in both the comedy and horror polls and which will, deservedly, show up in the results of each. Do not get the SotD reactionaries, but that might be because I'm a 'Murrican.

lol

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sorry, but it's pretty tragic seeing all the eberty "what did lynch mean?" ponderances about mulholland dr when the director himself admits it was an open-ended intro he slammed a cop-out ending onto. If you still enjoy it, great, but when people are like BEST MOVIE EVER...idgi, sorry

― da croupier, Friday, May 18, 2012 2:18 PM (3 minutes ago)

I'm with you on the "what does it mean" speculations, they're amusing mind games to play but have little to do with plumbing the actual worth of lynch's aesthetics. it's pretty obv you don't have much respect for his methods or their output, but you sound kinda like a cranky old banker looking at abstract art, "what do you mean he just dreamed it up! balderdash!"

you don't get to be the frank capra of dream logic by playing by the rules

if you plead to a mod they might fix that post eric

Interviewer: Admit that Mulholland Drive is an open-ended intro you slammed a cop-out ending onto.
Lunch: No! Never!
Interviewer: [Shines desk lamp into Lynch's eyes.] Admit it!
Lynch: OK! OK! It's true! Mulholland Drive is an open-ended intro I slammed a cop-out ending onto. It's all true! [Sobs.]

didn't vote sotd but I liked it alright as far as I can remember.

can't imagine wild zero has a chance anymore now that way more popular horror/comedies have already shown up... but prove me wrong, people!

yo my kid coulda made Mulholland Drive

Already put in a req, Eiii.

you sound kinda like a cranky old banker looking at abstract art, "what do you mean he just dreamed it up! balderdash!"

um, except i know i'm not looking at abstract art?

This would be the first of two films that I voted for in both the comedy and horror polls and which will, deservedly, show up in the results of each. Do not get the SotD reactionaries, but that might be because I'm a 'Murrican.

i'm not at all upset about anything that's placed so far. i love shaun of the dead and am happy to see it show up among the finalists. just explaining why i didn't vote for it.

um, except i know i'm not looking at abstract art?

well, yes and no...

like, i dig eraserhead and inland empire. the commercially-forced seams on mulholland are pretty transparent in comparison.

Frankenstein was on Fellini's Top 10 in the '92 S&S poll. I know the sequel's wilder, but there's something very pure and very beautiful about the original.

i'd say that all of david lynch's recent films use a sort of structural abstraction to their advantage, mullholland dr. no more (and no less) so than lost highway and inland empire.

like Shaun of the Dead and put it on my comedy ballot but left it off here (where i did include Dead Alive and a few other horror comedies) when it failed the 'will i feel like part of the problem when it places?' test

I see the same seams in MD but it doesn't dull the power of what he accomplished in the face of a difficult production situation. if anything I respect it more for those reasons.

xps

Ugh, fuck off.

― emil.y, Friday, 18 May 2012 19:15 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

I am one of the Proud 11 voting for Shaun of the Dead. (I always feel compelled to acknowledge voting for a movie when the first reaction after it's posted is something akin to "Ugh, fuck off.")

Mulholland Dr is not structurally abstract. it's a multi-plot tv pilot resolved with a dream ending when producers asked him to wrap the thing up for cinematic release. he just didn't bother removing the plots the dreamer wasn't in. Again, if you enjoy it, great. And you can respect it plenty! It just feels like every BEST MOVIE EVER rave is a lot like very BEST MOVIE EVER rave of Donnie Darko, willfully ignoring what was really going on.

huh, just checked and I didn't vote for bio zombie and I love that silly movie. it's got heart.

the commercially-forced seams on mulholland are pretty transparent in comparison.

i guess i agree, but i disagree that this is a problem or a deficiency. the movie's about movie-making, among other things, and the compromises that filmmakers are forced into. that makes a kind of digetic sense of the ways the production narrative you're describing impact the film, and i like the textural variety for its own sake.

no bio zombie on the noms list. mystery solved.

Mulholland Dr is not structurally abstract. it's a multi-plot tv pilot resolved with a dream ending when producers asked him to wrap the thing up for cinematic release.

those two things don't seem mutually exclusive to me. the circumstances under which the movie was made were whatever they were, but my experience of the events onscreen ultimately has very little to do with that.

very glad to see Cemetery Man placing. now just need Evil Dead II and Jacob's Ladder to turn up and my 3-vote ballot (had i turned one in) will be 100% represented!

love Colin Clive's "It's alive!" swoon.

42 of you didn't vote for Frankenstein? You of Earth are idiots.

Shaun of the Dead is overrated. doesn't belong here imho

I totally respect and appreciate the Whale-era Frankenstein films, and this totally belongs here, even if it currently serves more as a historically-significant relic than something watched all that regularly. Still though, as a monster, karlov's Frankenstein was probably robbed its last remaining scare potential by Phil Hartman.

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FIRE BAD

I don't think I've seen the original Frankenstein since I was like 10. didn't vote for it.

the book is all-time material obviously

Just watched Let's Scare Jessica to Death and it was everything I was hoping for.

I would hate for Lynch to have removed the "Sum'n bit me BAD!" scene from MD just to hide seams.

Thank god del Toro gave up his quest to make yet another Frankenstein.