Mulholland is so much better than Lost Highway, regardless / in spite of its origin.
― Simon H., Friday, 18 May 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
^ sorry if that was redundant. this is my hobbyhorse, and i will ride it.
naw this is a good point and tho we're coming from different angles I think we end up in the same place
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'm with the 'not horror' crowd on Mulholland Drive. But not gonna piss and moan about it too much.
― emil.y, Friday, May 18, 2012 1:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
same here ... though if i had placed it on my horror ballot it would've been ranked very high.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ quoted Mullholland Dr exchange
great great movie and Morbz probably OTM but I didn't vote for it, it's less of a horror film than some of his other entries imho
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Mulholland is a TV pilot with an "it was all a dream" tack-on finish.
― da croupier, Friday, May 18, 2012 1:07 PM (5 minutes ago)
and casablanca was a hackneyed story worked over by a hodgepodge of screenwriters scrambling to rush the movie into the theaters. in both cases the means of production doesn't amount to much when compared to the finished product.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
*don't*
yeah, shaping up to be an "i voted for this!" kind of day. i guess arty angst horror is where my heart lies.
i consider mulholland dr. a horror film because, though it spends a lot of its time elsewhere, it slips in and out of a tone of dreadful anticipation - and because three of its most memorable moments (the dumpster, the visit to the cabin, and closing scene) are among the most terrifying things i've ever seen onscreen. the ending of a film strongly affects how i characterize it, overall, and the final seconds of mulholland dr. just about scared me to death the first time i saw them.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
I think you mean a hill of beans
xpost
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw, it's mulholland dr. that made me start thinking of lynch as not just a guy who makes weird and sometimes scary movies, but as a full-on "horror filmmaker".
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
agree that mulholland dr is one of the greatest films of the 00s, maybe the greatest, but my "conservative ideas" about horror kept me from voting for it. it's a mystery, a thriller, a melodrama, a doomed romance, an examination of fantasy and illusion and filmmaking, and while it exploits some horror-type moments (most specifically the winkies scene) in toto it doesn't feel like a horror film to me.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
it did not even cross my mind to vote for MD in this poll, tho Eraserhead & Inland Empire are such pure distillations of fear, dread & disorientation that they seem to fit the bill much more suitably imo.
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny to rewatch mulholland dr. and to see that the payoff to the infamous "winkies scene" is really just [SPOILER]a lady with some black gunk on her face stepping out from behind a dumpster[/SPOILER]. hard to understand what might have made it so incredibly terrifying the first time around. o, but it was! i remember being shit-scared. something kind of magical about that.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's his timing of sound and motion in the frame that makes it work
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
I remember watching that scene on repeat on DVD trying to break down the mechanics
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
thank god jjjusten is not here to see this
Lynch is a master of making the banal totally horrifying. he can make a dim lamp in a room seem like the most terrifying environment ever.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
I have no problem seeing the Lynch films on here because I love them so much, but I definitely mentally categorize them more as Erotic Thrillers than Horror.
― Moodles, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
lol what was "erotic" about IE or Eraserhead
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
Lynch is no minimalist across the board or anything, but dude has the uncanny knack to make a relatively straightforward shot of a lamp or ceiling just totally menacing and evil. Yeah, sound design has much to do w/ that as well, I guess.
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
*ceiling fan
messed up babies are totally erotic
― game of crones (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
Surely a lot of this dread is just his ADD inclusions of hallways, empty doorways, and inanimate objects.
― remy bean, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of times there's this low rumble in the background of lynch films, after many years I realized it's v similar to the sound of a highway in the distance
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of messed-up babies, that final shot of Threads... xpost
― The Thnig, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://filmbalaya.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/66153-3.jpg
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
"Speaking of EROTIC THRILLERS, I love the scene when those cute little MONSTERS take in a MIDNIGHT screening of SNOW FRIGHT and the SEVEN PLAGUES!"
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7240/7221145170_5f9849bab9_o.jpg
64. GREMLINSJoe Dante, USA, 1984(299 points, 12 votes)
I admit, I'm not much of an admirer of Gremlins, but it's almost completely worth it just for the fact that it's such a blatant riff on the cuddly, sentimental style of producer Spielberg, who actually went to great lengths to defend Dante's vision.― Anthony (Anthony F), Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:35 PM (7 years ago)I do hope this doesn't degenerate into a thread about Gremlins.― Pete, Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago)
I do hope this doesn't degenerate into a thread about Gremlins.― Pete, Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't vote for it, but I do love those little guys.
― emil.y, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Nice! Did not include on my ballot because it plays almost as straight-up comedy to me now, but great to see it get some love here.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
Not that there's not some genuinely horrifying shit in there, I mean the gremlins do absolutely kill several people, but still.
yeah this is a comedy
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
didn't vote for it
most horrifying thing in it is the santa/dead dad story tbh
I had to check my ballot on this one, because voting for Gremlins totally sounds like something I'd do, but I did not.
~milk duds~
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i found the first section of lost highway almost unbearably unnerving, bill pullman in the apartment what with those long, dimly lit, almost static shots of yawning beige hallways, always with some eerie whooshing static in the background. nothing ever really happens there, but i just knew that something unspeakable was about to swim up out of that darkness, and that when it did, it would completely break my mind. i think that's lynch's best trick, btw. he gets across this idea, very familiar from nightmares, that the worst thing possible is about to be revealed.
then again, maybe i'm just a sucker for this approach. like i said upthread, the scariest monster, to me, is the one that has not yet taken shape - not the ghost itself, but the shapeless moment in which it seems (perhaps) to be appearing.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
love gremlins, love the sequel even more, didn't vote for either
― original bgm, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
most clearly horror thing lynch has done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYB2FykZgkg
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
always thought that gremlins was too dumb to spend too much time thinking about.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
gremlins is awesome, but yeah, i see it as a comical fantasy adventure with a few dark/scary spots.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
When (SPOILER) Spike melts at the end, it freaking HORRIFIED and HAUNTED me as a kid. But, yeah, today it's a comedy.
― The Thnig, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
LOL. I still growl this sometimes.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, sound design has much to do w/ that as well, I guess.
absolutely
― original bgm, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.hark.com/clips/kdznxgrzft-milk-duds
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
I have a lot of love for mulholland dr but it ain't horror in my book. now inland empire otoh...
― original bgm, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
gremlins takes the malevolence of its creatures seriously enough that it works as horror, but it's def at the light end of the spectrum. that's ok, not everything has to be a gruelfest.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
it definitely put some fear into me as a kid
― original bgm, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
well SOMEBODY must have voted for Gremlins..
It was def an integral part of my childhood movie-going experience and as such prob fundamental to my taste for horror in general, but I don't ever have the inclination to return to it for either laughs or scares tbh.
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yay, Gremlins! Another low-placer on my ballot but worthy of inclusion.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait to show it to my kids
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
Aside from Die Hard, it probably is my favorite Christmas movie, though.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
if you're going to try and dignify mulholland dr worship with a historical precedent, it should probably be Wizard Of Oz.
― da croupier, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link