or Skeletor's Havoc Staff
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
...but no superpowers. You might as well call Batman a superhero.
b-b-but batman is one of the most archetypal superheroes out there.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XoRGgpF2qc&noredirect=1
Would love for there to be a scene like this in the Avengers sequel.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Punisher's got a costume, which is close enough to superhero. Besides, fuck a cape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNUbPRj9TGM&feature=related
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
He's a vigilante, duh
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
So is Batman.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
Batman's a vigilante.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp
And the both have belts.
batman has superscience gadgets, punisher has guns and a van
― goole, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
i'd argue that being in a comic book makes you a superhero tho
― goole, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Batman has a mask and an alter ego.
― Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
batman is a.... love vigilante
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
"Your dad was a brave brave man. But now he's dead."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but come on, he's one of two characters that arguably invented and continues to define the superhero genre (w supes, natch). he's a superfriend, a member of the justice league, wears tights and a cape, battles supervillains, etc.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
Batman that is a member of the Justice League and all that shit hasn't been in movies
Outside of a handful of periods, they're written as pretty different characters
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
"Superhero or not" is about the mootest damn question I can think of.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
it's contenderizer's calling to address this question
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
it is my calling to answer all questions (have i explained to you about how lolcats work?)
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
it is also my calling to "about"
we already got a guy to ponder it all fyi
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
i'm helping
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
Y'all are bringing a lot of reason to a debate happening under the auspices of #nerdhairsplitting.
xp http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/93887728/7366758
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
anyway...
disagree. the world in which batman exists is more self-contained in the movies than in the comics, not apparently a part of DC's superhero-dense universe, but the essence of the batman/bruce wayne character hasn't changed much in his transition from page to screen. he's very much in line with what we've seen in the comics over the last quarter century. nolan pushes the more fanciful elements to the margins in terms of a "realism" that's derived from espionage and action movies, but i don't see how this makes the character any less a superhero (though he is an unusual one, being powerless and all).
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
you'll be a superhero to me if you stfu
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't even what I meant anyway
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
lol alfred
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
kisses
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
you keep smiling and shrugging it off but no, really, you need to chill
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
what's the problem? serious question.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/g/Guy_Gardner.jpg
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
i nerd out about superhero semantics for the space of one post in the avengers thread. so what?
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
ok, withdrawn.
if you can let it go now.
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
sheesh, italics and everything
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
re: expertise, i think superheroes would be a better set of "experts" to consult on the worthiness of this shit than professional comic book critics, who i assume would reject it out of hand
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
New ILC Board description
― I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha, works for me -- that C.A. "wank" quote was only ever meant to be a placeholder anyway.
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
I think if you save the life of one person (or stop a violent crime) then you are a hero, and if you multiply that to saving multiple lives - tens, hundreds, thousands - then you are a superhero.
I don't think having bizarre powers or life-altering mutations or whatever should be a requisite.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
that's a pretty great and concise argument, am definitely going to use that if (god help me) i ever get caught in this kind of convo again
― that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
well the punisher kills a lotta people so i guess he's a supervillain?
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think we can agree that we're all heroes in our own magical way
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
nah, we're all villains
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/4f8bcd4b198f49fe14a8870c1dae978f/169887.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theshannongallery.com/images/shirts/shirt_slyvillains.jpg
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
Punisher = more 'anti' than 'super'
― Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
seeing this tomorrow, apparently
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Hate it lots, so we don't have to.
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
not expecting to much to hate, honestly...? altho I'm not a fan of Transformers-style smashbangloudincomprehensibility action sequences so maybe I will hate those, I dunno.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
first Marvel movie I will have watched since the first Iron Man movie, which was fine
smashbangloudincomprehensibility
This movie doesn't really have any of these.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link