GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

this is like the more famous daughter of a film that isnt so famous but was actually more accomplished

dear ilx television programming expert derek w. haircare,

• what are your favourite television programmes? we would love to know
• what is an acceptable number of episodes before one decides one enjoys a television programme

There was no subtext. I was just asking a question.

Feel free to get overly-defensive, though.

lol touché

favourite television programmes

are

i girls
ii hard talk with stephen sackur
iii maxgif

untitled Brian Williams' daughter's project

thomp, do u watch 30 Rock regularly?

yes, it's so much easier to remember 'that is non-celebrity brian williams' daughter' every time you hear the name of the character 'marnie' or see 'olivia williams' in the credits than it is to remember that the character is named 'marnie' or the actress 'olivia williams'

― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:41 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alternatively, it's straight up misogynist bullshit

― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:42 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. i have no idea who lena dunham's mum is, to me she is the woman behind that awesome movie tiny furniture. i only know williams from 30 rock becz lol britishes. zosia mamet i know through her being awesome on Mad Men and The Kids Are Alright. And who the fuck is/was Bad Company's drummer?

he was the drummer for bad company

There was no subtext. I was just asking a question.

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feel free to get overly-defensive, though.

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:03 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am genuinely curious! i think ilx needs to know more about how you feel about television

mordy i watched the first two and a half seasons and then found i didn't like it as much as i did when i started. i have been watching occasional episodes of this season and got fairly excited about the live one.

i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.

OTM

misogynist^

otm^

there are 4 characters in the show. i most frequently hear them referred to as: brian william's daughter, david mamet's daughter, lena dunham, and the british one. the first two are the daughters of very famous ppl, ppl whose fame completely eclipses their progenies at this point in time. lena dunham's name is lena dunham. the british one's father's name is not 'the british.'

i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.

don't then, you condescending douchebag

'daughter of britannia'

I'll agree that referring to the cast of Girls as "such-and-such's daughter" is douchey, but...I guess referring to the parentage of the Beatles progeny who are talking about starting a band = misandry?

don't then, you condescending douchebag

yeah, that's a totally tonally appropriate response. your dad is gay.

she is actually from a british girls clone called

Burdz

I'll agree that referring to the cast of Girls as "such-and-such's daughter" is douchey, but...I guess referring to the parentage of the Beatles progeny who are talking about starting a band = misandry?

― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, you're right. that would be misandry. that is exactly correct.

they just decided on second season theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZIK4Ymr0A

now now dont go white history monthing deric, thomp

this show was funded by grants set aside for white history month iirc

'white history monthing' seems like it's actually a surprisingly helpful verb form

i don't think we need to otm every vacuous accusation of misogyny.

if you don't see how this is condescending then you must be profoundly unaware of how much of a douchebag you seem

yeah i think maybe mordy called ilx shrill but u know ilx can be shrill and mordy is profoundly aware of that

the casting should be applauded on esthetic grounds rather than as materiel for the usual nominative/communitarian ruction

i would totally be up for a two lights biopic in which every character was played by the illegitimate son of a brat pack member

i just realized the person being referred to in the "your dad is gay" line was the co-star of Bosom Buddies

GIRLS starring "the drummer from bad company's daughter" and "tom hanks' former co-worker"

thomp, that's from this: http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/03/fear-of-reese-witherspoon-look-alikes-on-the-pill.html

the casting obliquely makes a case for nepotism as a rising tide that lifts all boats, cuz daughters and sons are equally favoured it actually has a 'progressive' component

and it works as a 'wry commentary', cuz here is a show about young NYC media hopefuls, but don't forget that the people playing them already have media careers at 22 or w/e thanks at least in some mesure to their connections

i dont think anyone is arguing they arent good enough for their roles? so yeah.....kirke especially is kinda brilliant tho but see tiny furniture more for that

idk how much this is the case in america, with its political dynasties and tradition of plutocratic pseudo-nobility but in the uk at any rate, there seems to be a return to values that (tacitly or otherwise) favour ~good breeding~ and nepotism is in especially fine form these days

Again we are in some looking glass world where being the daughter of Bad Company's drummer opens doors.

does anyone actually refer to her in a casual discussion of the show as Bad Company's drummer?

yyyyeah but not really, there are no bad fames any more than people care that your baronetcy came from a victorian opium magnate

theres no way the drummer of bad company could be any sort of industry connect guy

A governor on the board of NARAS (the Grammy Award Committee), Kirke lives in Manhattan with his wife, Lorraine Dellal, and his four children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Kirke

yes mordy we know she's "the british one" let it go

just looking thru this thread no one has ever referenced her by calling her the Bad Company's drummer's daughter except when discussing how lolzy it is that anyone would care about that particular fact.

i think in a way it's better for style section editors &c if u are like the child of someone from poison or ub40, if you are the kid of scott walker it is to be expected that you will be cool and it's not really a thing

holy shit, simon kirke? then surely more accurately she's Free's drummer's daughter

yerp

she was referred to as Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter on that infamous rewrite of the poster that was posted on the internet somewhere

well they are both true

Bad Company is really more famous than Free, aren't they?

yes

I read somehwere that she went to school w/Lena - that's what opened the door.

have they said where the characters went to school

she said 'liberal arts' in the last ep but im not sure weve been given a name

do they seem kinda wesleyan or are they more sarah lawrence