the actually machers of the 1960s were not some twenty yr olds from liverpool or haight in any case
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
Like others here, I always thought I was generation X, but I guess I'm generation Y? I don't really know what that means - at least I can pinpoint what the press thought generation X was, even if it didn't really apply to that many people I knew...
― emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
no one is more infatuated with boomers than a boomer
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ iatee's graphic
if I'd answered that survey, the Reagan/Bush diagram would have a little asterisk on it that said "one respondent wrote in his father"
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder what sort of epochal event might have occurred in the early 2000s that might have defined the generation coming of age during that era, hmmmm
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
also super lolz at ppl itt discovering to their horror that they are the attention craving special snowflake brats they hate
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
wtc meant shit to most ppl outside of america
it isnt, in any case, an event of /demographic/ importance
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
How about Internet / collapse of world economy / rise of animal collective?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
I think the boomers did have a sense of generational solidarity, though, and as procrustean as it may be to impose that on subsequent generations, perhaps they're either blind to following generations' having less of it or they don't approve of such anti-social tendencies. I definitely got a vibe from my dad in the 70's/80's that things had been more hopeful in the 60's and that the 70's had too many ppl just looking out for themselves w/o enough committment to social justice. Then Reagan got elected.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
those were mostly the same people
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
i guess animal collective concerts/listservs might be demographically important, search census for ppl called 'noah lennox _____' born 2k4-2k9 or whenever
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
uh... aren't we talking about america itt?
― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
u cannot trust anything a boomer says about boomers. If they thought we'd believe it they'd claim that everyone in the sixties exclusively ate harmony flowers, stopped violence with soulful vibrations and everyone loved one another w the heat of a thousand life giving suns
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
I think one of the stereotypes of millenials is they like their parents. I find that kind of cute tbh.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah well hopefully not just america, else u can all go talk about the grateful dead and spiro agnew's toilet routine
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, absolutely!
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think the 20-year generations thing is going to work at all from the 1990s onward (and was obv problematic before). Kids born five years apart seem like they're going to have vastly different experiences.
I was born in '81 and I feel like while we were around the first to 'grow up with the Internet,' the technological pace was relatively slow and we had a lot of culture in common with people a few years older (esp. if we had older siblings or friends). Whereas now I'd be lumped into Gen Y and I am just utterly, massively confused by the experiences of anyone 5 years younger than me, much less 10-20.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
The other 20 year problem is that ppl aren't having their kids at 20 in the same numbers they used to.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
As a teenager I wrote and drew for the 'teen' section of the local paper (called ATTITUDE, a word that took up half the page like a WWII "WAR!" headline because they could never generate enough content). One of my teenaged peers, a redheaded Wiccan, wrote a column called THE VOICE OF X. This was 1998 or so, and she kept having to rebuff letters to the editor alleging she was too young to be a gen X'er. Seriously, half her columns were about trying to define generations in a way that justified the name of her column. It was pretty silly.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead
nah there is evidence that youthful political convictions generally stick but even if there weren't, the point is to observe a set group over time
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?
I straddle the line between fitting the stereotype and heavily relating to this:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61AMJNM5BWL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Really, though, I don't know that any of this generational labeling is particularly meaningful in anything but the broadest sense (e.g. there are a lot of boomers, generation "text" or whatevs is probably gonna be more tech-savvy). If you think you've adequately summed up and/or are the voice of a particular generation, you're probably doing it wrong.
― Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
it occurs to me that the easiest way to read the top row is 'old people are racist'
xp
― thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
instead of being concerned with generations of the past I think we should think about generations of the future
for example:the spacefaring generationthe exoplanet terraforming generation
― dayo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, i think the graph is interesting but i think that the goalposts are pretty arbitrary: they're assuming the weight of political consciousness falls the same way upon someone who turns eighteen the day of the new frontier speech as it does someone who turns eighteen the day they join a march yelling 'hey hey lbj etc'
― thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i voted millenials haha suck it millenials
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
and i think the results for 'not yet eighteen when kennedy was shot''not yet eighteen during watergate''not yet eighteen during the iran hostage crisis''not yet eighteen when the berlin war fell''not yet eighteen for gulf war ii'would probably confirm our biases just as effectively and yet they'd tell a pretty different story about 'generations'
― thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
oy, spot the error
― thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://workexposed.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/gen-y-10-charachteristics.jpg
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
who told them about our secret language
millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
People of Clemenza's generation do kind of interest me, those old enough to have soaked up the energy of the '60s and then experience the whiplash into the stupor of the '70s... perhaps it didn't actually feel like that in the moment but it certainly looks like that in (US-biased) retrospect.
The only time I remember that felt like a massive zeitgeist shift was around 1979-1981.
Side note: I seem to recall that when Douglas Coupland came out with the book Generation X the people in it were mostly born in the early 1960s, like Coupland himself. Somehow the Gen X boundary got shifted forward to 1965 and early '60s is now "late boomers." Which actually seems to make more sense to me.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://leftoutside.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/us-population-pyramid.jpg
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
haha people who are zero whats up w/them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
dayo, your hopes for the future are awfully sanguine. First there's going to be the drone gang war generation
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
generation Z (zero)
― max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
generation waterworld
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
voted for millenials because i hope for my son's sake that his generation is slightly less insufferable than the current young adult crowd
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
considering voting for gen z because they are the spawn of gen x
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm in that gray zone between X and Y and can't imagine anyone worse that my peers
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno man, do you think the kids 5 or 10 or 15 years younger than us are cooler? semi-serious question.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
graph of shitty NYT op-ed writers by generation
thomas friedman (b. 1953) - baby boomerross douthat (b. 1979) - gen Xdavid brooks (b. 1961) - gen Xmaureen dowd (b. 1952) - baby boomer
some other writers
jonah goldberg (b. 1969) - gen Xkathleen parker (b. 1951) - baby boomerjennifer rubin (b. 1968) - gen Xkathryn jean lopez (b. 1976) - gen X
<drops mic>
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno man, that's the narrative but it seems like the Occupy movement was as millenial as it was any other generation.― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:12 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are literally thousands of millenials critical of the governments monetary policy, call in the paramilitaries
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.people-press.org/files/2011/11/11-3-11-45.png
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
wow 64% of the silent generation is not very silent when it comes to answering poll questions
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
they just blink once for yes, twice for no
― Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://meyermktg.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/genx5.jpg
"we made it!! we're set for life!! I wish kurt cobain were around to see how far we've come..."
http://www.people-press.org/files/2011/11/11-3-11-61.png
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:37 AM (12 minutes ago)
awww you're talking about my parents here!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol silent generation is such a mean name
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/millennials_will_save_us/
― Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link