Everyone talks too much. The pace lumbers. The story clunks.
from whedon? what an utter shock
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
You notice all the little details that should have been invisible, such as the way Hawkeye never seems to run out of arrows
um actually he does
or how sparsely populated the streets of New York City are during an attack by an intergalactic army.
they run away! there are classic shots of people in new york streets running away from intergalactic attack!
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
Whedon's really cornering the market on "don't get me wrong, there were tons of smart, fun, exciting moments, but..." reviews this year.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:33 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this. whedon has lots of great ideas but he seems to have a hard time executing them effectively. i recently watched serenity and it wasn't terrible but felt like a lot of missed opportunities. i found myself enjoying the plotting but kind of re-directing the film in my head. the cheesy mise-en-scene had a lot to do with this--it looked cheaply lit and kind of underconceived. i wonder if that's just the low budget showing through (although, compare it to e.g. carpenter's assault on precinct 13 and you can see what a director can do with a few dollars and some crappy sets).
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
watched a boot of it yesterday cos i was stuck in the house. Enjoyed it.Was struck with thinking that Hulk's inarticulacy in the common understanding probably had a lot to do with the actor playing him in the tv series being a deaf mute - Lou Ferigno. I know there was a point where the intelligence of Bruce Banner was present in the body of the Hulk, in the comic anyway, not sure how long that lasted.
& Captain America's wings just being drawn or whatever on the side of his mask. There have been live action things where they have been freestanding haven't there? Does seem a bit impractical.
What powers does the Black widow have? think I heard about her having similar healing properties to Wolverine/Bucky and her being young in the early Soviet Union but not sure what else. Is everything else training?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
Ferrigno is mostly deaf but not mute.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
was gonna say
― "in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
i was checking the imdb credits a while back and ferrigno does the voice of hulk in this!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
also if we're gonna get into a grey/green/red hulk conversation regarding the intelligence levels of banner/hulk we're gonna need to start talking peter david and this conversation gonna get NERDY
― "in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
also holy shit at that bit of trivia
― "in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
the original black widow is just a batman-type, no powers. Dunno whether they went with a Russian Super Soldier thing for her in the movie version.
― "in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
sorry head still full of cold, he growls quite a bit in the tv series but I don't think he says anything coherent does he? Which isn't the same as him being a deafmute of course.But I wonder if a more articulate actor might have made something else of the part. Method acted his way through the rage etc.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
But she has that Nick Fury anti-aging serum thing, right?
xpost
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
you wanna hear Ferrigno talk watch Pumping Iron
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
King of Queens!
― PSOD (Ste), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
ok so yeah this was entertaining. plot is completely threadbare - loki steals tesseract, nick fury assembles avengers to get it back, they get it back - just enough to hang 3-4 massive action setpieces on. but the interaction between the avengers really greases the proceedings and, as pointed out above, it's a very funny movie. not in that usual "throw em some one-liner chuckles" way - the crowd at my screening was roaring with laughter + delight. absolutely recommend seeing it w/ an audience.
this thing's gonna make 900 gajillion dollars.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
well, also 'loki allows himself to be captured / loki gets released'
it seems like they ought to have another one in the pipeline already
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
sadly, they have to do more sequels to the individual characters' movies first
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
the crowd at my screening was roaring with laughter + delight. absolutely recommend seeing it w/ an audience.
I wonder how much of this is just sheer delight that their childhood dreams are realized i.e. Hawkeye and Cap America interacting.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
nah, it's really funny. I can't imagine most of the crowd at my screening had much familiarity with the characters beyond maybe seeing a few of the previous films
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
yup. my wife usually hates superhero movies but she was cracking up throughout. it's not nerd delight, it's general audience delight.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Ferrigno was also the voice of the Hulk in the Ed Norton joint.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
It's this. It's basically a pr0n movie with all your favorite pr0n stars all getting their one-on-one scenes.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
bears repeating: fanboys are the worst
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
going friday
― The world is your urinal. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
It's basically a pr0n movie with all your favorite pr0n stars all getting their one-on-one scenes.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:25 (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are so many places that analogy breaks down
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
well, no. there's one.
jeremy renner looks so lame and miserable in this cast, hanging out with all the megafamous people with superpowers with his stupid little bow and arrow and mountain climbing outfit
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
I know. Chris Evans' muscles aren't quite big enough. But work with it.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
Th eidea of there being a second, US-only, after credits scene is baffling. I didn't stay for the first one (because the credits on this bad boy will be LotR length) but after reading what it was I wish I had.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
watching the Chris Evans Captain America movie last night, I wondered whether Cap America was always such a bore in the comics. At least Evans didn't get much dialogue.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the s******* scene was on the europe release - i felt bad for not staying all through the second batch of credits after the t***** scene
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
otoh, the rest of the credits do seem to have been >15 minutes of the advertised running time, so not all that bad
yeah, Captain America is pretty boring. I mean look at him
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
the cap movie gets a lot worse once he gets all superpowered and stuff, it seemed like his head on top of some other dude was altogether a better performance -- this wasn't the only reason but
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
If Hulk is this movie's MVP, Capt.Am is its albatross.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
he does get one good line though
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
Refresh my memory. I found it hard to hear what he was saying when he was on screen.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
"flying monkeys"
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
Hah, that one really DID slip by me.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
No, the s******* scene is post-credits in the US only, although that does make sense then that there are credits after the one I didn't watch.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
why would they do that? it seems like the world's worst thought out anti-piracy measure
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
I don't u********* what you are t******* a****
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Presumably I'm guessing they thought only people in America would know what s******* is. Don't laugh. People have thought stranger things.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
We're being secret about the post-credits stuff, like filmmakers want us to.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't hate the Captain America movie but the ending was so rushed the takeaway became "see you at The Avengers!" Ironic considering it'd have the most dramatic ending of any of the pre-Avenger movies if not for the "nevermind he's fine" that immediately follows his self-sacrifice
― da croupier, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently they filmed the s******* scene after the movie had wrapped? It doesn't have any dialogue anyway
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
I dug captain america from a look & design standpoint, plus it is one of the darker marvel films - his best friend dies and "nevermind he's fine" is paired w/ the realization that his unrequited love is long dead. also idgaf about spoilers obv, these are superhero movies not les diaboliques.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
and if you guys are actually starring out the word shawarma, you are a bunch of eff star star cunts
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
aw, you ruined it
― Number None, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link