~~~~~nutrition nazis 2012~~~~~

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on this again

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

my bf has joined in a weight loss study through a local hospital, 2 years long, with a cognitive-behavioral emphasis. he's been at for like 5 or 6 weeks and has already dropped 15 lbs. i started preparing healthy meals for us at the outset and i'm just getting on board now with the calorie counting, which is both challenging & illuminating.

i'm on the 4th day of restricting my intake to 1600 cal per day, with some allowance for more on days i exercise. i'm really hungry right now.

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i got an app to see how my calorie intake is (and protein, carbs etc), and its kinda much lower than i thought

breakfast: 461 calories (muesli, yoghurt, strawberries)
lunch: 254 calories (canned tuna, a yam, baby leaf salad)
dinner: 920 calories (butternut squash, mackerel, onion, tomato, avocado, asparagus, okra)

other: 300 carrot/celery/spinach (juiced), banana

only comes to 1930 - didnt feel hungry

over on saturated fat and sodium, thats the mackerel - should have got tinned not smoked

coal, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

I got a Fitbit! And god help me, I'm going to Zumba tonight (first and possibly last time).

Oh sorry that is not nutrition. Better seasonal produce availability = easier NNing for me. Picking radishes, sugar snaps, snow peas, lettuces from the garden now.

quincie, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

canned tuna, a yam
the mental image of someone eating tuna out of a can while gnawing on a yam is cracking me up.

kate78, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

a yam, a plan, a can of tuna

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

haha i totally laughed when i read that too!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

i think it's also because, like ham, yam is a comedy word

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

and both are delicious

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

anyone have any thoughts on chia seeds?

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

Not as healthy as flax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSBkaZ-aUA

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

more expensive too iirc

it's smdh time in America (will), Sunday, 10 June 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

chia, that is

it's smdh time in America (will), Sunday, 10 June 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

bought a Vitamix at Costco!

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

eating paleo for 2 weeks now and it's really agreeing with me at this point.

carne asada, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

expensive though

carne asada, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't really the right thread for this but i have been doing boot camp 3 mornings a week and i feel good, and strong. also calorie counting and eating healthy. but I'm not making any progress weight wise. what to do???

tehresa, Thursday, 21 June 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

you very well may be changing the shape of your body in a positive way still. don't be discouraged by the numbers because that doesn't tell the whole story imo. just keep working at it

carne asada, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

yah don't worry about the weight piece tza, you are a champion

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 22 June 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

if you feel stronger you probably are getting stronger, which will keep your weight pretty constant.

goole, Friday, 22 June 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

muscle weighs more than fat iirc

un® (dayo), Friday, 22 June 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

i know all that but laziness made me gain weight from my previous period of awesome and i would really like it to come back off. it's especially frustrating since the last time i was on a routine like this i lost weight much more easily. is this what happens when you get old?

tehresa, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, yes it is.

quincie, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

all you can say is lol bodies, don't blame it on yourself (and "laziness")

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

JuliaA, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm trying to adopt a rather nostalgic attitude about my younger body, like "hey wasn't it so awesome to eat like that, and smoke and drink, and still rock crazy little bikinis and minis? Wasn't that something? Boy, those were the days!" The same attitude I have about those long-gone days of staying out all night, doing drugs, crushing on boys with guitars, etc. Fun then, NAGL now.

quincie, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

staying foxy is another discussion entirely

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

Tza it totally sucks but it's true that aging effects that. It is way harder for me to lose weight now than it was when I was younger. I didn't want to admit it because most days I still feel 18 but age is definitely a factor.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

le sighhhhh

tehresa, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

so on the plus side, this morning after boot camp (which, btw, i got up at 5:45 to attend on my day off!) i actually found myself wishing it'd been longer.

tehresa, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20120626/all-calories-not-created-equal-study-suggests

kinda confirms what I've been suspecting lately!

I am pretty constant in the amount of food I eat from day to day but I def notice that on baking days, I tend to feel 'heavier' the next day, probably on account of all the brownies and cookie dough I sneak on the side ;~(

Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

My whole foods now has health starts here salad dressings on the bar - no oil, lots of flavor!

tehresa, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

it is a lot easier to not eat carbs during summer, i find. as long as i don't buy chips at the store. don't buy chips at the store. don't. buy. chips.
what i have been eating for the saltiness factor is avocado with soy sauce on it. which is really satisfying! my stomach is much happier too. i don't even know why i started eating chips again. maybe because i was eating them while on vacation in april. eesh.

i firmly believe that study, especially for myself, as lowish-carb is great for me, but i also believe that people's bodies are different and handle different kinds of food differently. that is my non-committal answer.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

i was just thinking about this thread because i bought raspberries, strawberries and cherries at the store today and some ricotta to go with them! dessert meal

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

we have an (inadvertent) bag of chips in the house and it's just the best and the worst

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

anyway does anybody know what happens when you mix high GI and low GI foods? I read somewhere the overall effect is that of eating the equiv. of medium GI food. wondering if that's how asians avoid diabetes!

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i was talking to a friend last night who just got back from a couple of weeks visiting family and she said she'd forgotten how many people just have pantries stuffed with easy food like chips and crackers and granola bars, etc, food you don't have to do anything to, just take out of the bag/box and eat. i seriously have none of that food in my house (because nutrition nazi). unless fruit counts as easy food.

i totally had poutine and beer for dinner last night though.
everything in moderation!
xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

well, the rule i have learned is that if you're going to eat something like white rice, always eat it with protein, fat and fibre/vegetables. basically always eat carbs with protein at the very least, not alone. as a regular, non-athlete person.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that makes sense. who eats white rice by itself? jeez

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Thursday, 5 July 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

i think some people just eat it with vegetables, no protein or fat
or yknow, pasta with tomato sauce, toast with jam, etc

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

I've been experimenting with green smoothies in my Vitamix but every time I include celery (in most green smoothie recipes), I don't like the taste. Too, uh, 'green.'

Thinking about ditching celery for extra spinach/kale, unless I'm missing something special about celery?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

celery has a punchy taste, I would ditch it and maybe add carrots instead?

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

okay that's not green, go with the extra spinach

now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

Carrots would be good, I think. I'll try that next time.

been doing this lately:

bunch of spinach
green apple or pear
scoop of flax seeds
scoop of unflavored whey protein
cucumber
whatever else is around that sounds interesting

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

white (jasmine) rice is not even a little bad for you! i am chief of the brown rice patrol, but the health benefits of jasmine are basically equivalent to much of the brown that I eat, and it cooks more quickly and doesn't tend to overwhelm a lot of the delicate sauceys I make

uncondensed milky way (remy bean), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

I pretty much only eat brown rice now -- I didn't know that jasmine was as beneficial!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

yeah wow that's great. doubly so because it is the best white rice, imo.

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

what's good about it? i'm making brown jasmine right now.

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

harbl, overachiever.

quincie, Thursday, 5 July 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

Super interesting series of 3 short videos from Dr. Michael Greger's excellent nutritionfacts.org site about bacterial endotoxins & saturated fat. Its been known for a couple of decades that meals with saturated fat cause arterial inflammation, leading to cholesterol plaque deposition and thence heart attacks and strokes. Turns out the main culprit may not be the fat itself, but cooking resistant bacterial toxins in the meat/cheese that are transported through the intestinal wall in the presence of saturated fats:

1: The Leaky Gut Theory of Why Animal Products Cause Inflammation
2: The Exogenous Endotoxin Theory
3: Dead Meat Bacteria Endotoxemia

The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link


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