Plus they believe that if they have tv sets at home they are not really poor. Ugh
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
"lefty extremist kevin drum"
― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
look we all know what team we're on here, but that's not an accurate reading of their objection curmudgeon. "charity" and "government" are two different things.
― goole, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
https://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs014/1109296410234/img/4.jpg
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
ugh
― goole, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
since when is "true" a verb
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
idk it just sorta trued into being a verb a while ago
― iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
I TRUED IT
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
hahahah what the hell
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
"He got trued last night" sounds like my kind of neologism
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
jeez talk to a bike mechanic sometime
― goole, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
true is totally a verb dudes means the same thing as square, as in level or even or to adjust something to the right psition
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
look if Kingsley Amis said it's ok to use as a verb then I'm cool
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
so 'true' is amised?
― Fook Lee (Matt P), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
x-post
― goole, Monday, April 16, 2012 6:52 PM
Ok, one commentor on the Red State posting mentions the word "charity" but not the author of the posting. Some of my above comments were based on standard complaints I have read on that Red State site and other right-wing sites, and you are correct were not specifically in that author's posting.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
i got trued by a Republican operative in a voting-booth beef.
― onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
Republican opposition ensured that a measure pressed by President Obama and Senate Democrats to raise effective tax rates for the superrich would not come to a decisive vote.
Thank you Mark Pryor, alleged Democrat from Arkansas for voting with the filibustering Republicans on this. Sure, Dems were 9 votes short of 60 and the Buffet Rule alone would not solve everything, but still.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
Washington-based conservative writer aghast at Hillary Clinton; plus yesterday's NY Post had a photo with the caption "Swillary":
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100150955/is-hillary-clinton-becoming-an-embarrassment-as-secretary-of-state/
It is hard to imagine Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright or Henry Kissinger “livin' la vida loca” on the world stage. This was less an example of “smart power” than a boozy nightclub audition for the sixth season of Jersey Shore. Hillary Clinton’s Colombian antics are an embarrassment for a high-level cabinet member on official duty, and have lowered the office of Secretary of State. Not exactly the sort of image the federal government should be projecting at a time of widespread public disillusionment with Washington excesses.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Have you seen digby's response?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Nice.
The substantive news from Colombia is not good:
Overlooking violence against Colombian labor leaders and ongoing efforts to prevent unions from forming, the Obama administration announced at the Summit of the Americas over the weekend that the US-Colombia Free Trade Agreement will take effect May 15.”
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
GUESS WHO'S BIZzACK?
http://i.imgur.com/qyrr5.jpg
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
That is actually the best photo.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
omg
― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Andrew v. otm
first as tragedy, then as Poochie.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Slick Willie looks like he's three feet tall! Love the tie though.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Compare and contrast these ex-two-term-presidents: Clinton v. GW Bush.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
every president ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWB
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
even Andrew Johnson?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
sure why not
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
which wars did Johnson start/which economic disaster did he create I forget
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
for a certain segment of the population he helped foster an economic disaster and war that has lasted to this day
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
He created a racial disaster in the South iirc
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
not disputing Johnson being stupid/drunk/incompetent btw
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
in any case it's pointless to compare any pre-20th century president to what a president does today, might as well compare him to napolean
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
btw I don't mind thinking Bush is worse than Andy Johnson but in the let's-send-young-men-needlessly-to-their-deaths Wilson and Nixon are pretty horrible.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really strongly associate Nixon with let's-send-young-men-needlessly-to-their-deaths, or at least not as much as JFK + LBJ, but i'm sure i'm wrong
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Nixon prolonged the Vietnam War, ordered the invasion of Cambodia, gave the ok to the CIA to eliminate Allende – turns the stomach really.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
key difference here is that Dubya's policies fucked the ENTIRE country (granted some worse than others), not just "a certain segment".
Johnson's failures are egregious, but the scale of Dubya's mismanagement is like a fucking Bible EPIC: 9/11, Iraq war, Katrina, housing collapse/economic meltdown
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
no one is doing their assigned work (pouts)
― Aimless, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
my impression is that while JFK and LBJ both escalated the Vietnam war, neither was as brazenly cynical and opportunistic as Nixon was when it came to killing people for political gain.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
shakes, what's the difference? Johnson's racism and disinterest in Reconstruction fucked the ENTIRE country for a century!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
You're not seriously saying this, are you?
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
that fucking SOB Clinton did more than his share of initiating "W's economic disaster"
W and Billy were sockpuppets, as is Hopey
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
the northern states did allright during Reconstruction iirc
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
lol shakey you are digging yourself in a hole to defend a statement w/ no particular value anyway
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
entirely possible
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
neither was as brazenly cynical and opportunistic as Nixon was when it came to killing people for political gain.
I guess I won't say who's worse than Nixon.
Speeding tickets, Indy 500, etc etc
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
whether or not dubya was a better or worse president than johnson reveals absolutely nothing about anything, those dudes lived in entirely different universes and had entirely different roles in history, it's like arguing about pizza vs. china, the only measure by which you can compare them is 'effectiveness as a politician' which actually doesn't matter because their political goals were to do bad things to the world
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
we're just having fun here – lighten up
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link