Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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just curious how saying 'racists are human' constitutes 'bending over backwards to defend' them, bc i had no idea i was engaging in rhetorical contortionism

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

perhaps you could overexplain it to me

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think you left out an 'over' or two.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

idk, 'overhuman' sounds like a terribly racist thing to say

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

There is only Zuul.

fka snush (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

wait Deric, you weren't talking about bronies?

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

it's really much more important that we all spend time bickering amongst each other about the proper way to dislike racism and to express said disapproval

like half the threads in ILE pretty much devolve into this (or some form of let's pull out our massive cocks and show each other how god damned outraged we are), why are you surprised

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

why would people be outraged for having massive cocks

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

Like half the threads in ILE pretty much devolve into this because a some people seem to have trouble following a discussion that stretches over more than a few posts.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

a

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

deric would you say poor reading comprehension is a subhuman characteristic

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

or some form of let's pull out our massive cocks and show each other how god damned outraged we are

doesn't even happen on the gay thread :(

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

guys, that was a figure of speech - I don't mean you guys literally pull out your ducks and wipe them all over the monitor

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

*dicks

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Speak for yourself.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

*dicks

it's been a while since I said this, but...new board description

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

oversoul is emersonian and the root of nietzsche's ubermensch iirc, because nietzsche was an emerson-loving softy.

deric i think moral outrage that turns into contempt is useless, if sometimes totally understandable. it makes the already hard job of changing ppl's minds harder. ppl are open to being called out when there is a recognition between parties that 'subhuman pieces of shit' denies. you can erode the certainties prejudice is built on w/out someone being particularly 'ready to change', but pious fury gets in the way. also yr racist grandma is fair game.

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

thread got "interesting" for a while. wanted to express my disgust at that graffiti, but now i'm worried that others will be intimidated by my massive, veiny duck.

  • *dicks

am0n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes it's just nice to have a place where you can say go fish, yo to some racists

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

dtw

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

dance the watusi?

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

as opposed to ftw

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

i think moral outrage that turns into contempt is useless, if sometimes totally understandable.

Uh oh, my facebook wall just crumbled

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

^^^was reading this earlier trying to understand the circumstances... like, why did the cops shoot him? there is no indication of motive beyond the blatant racism

Silky Slim (dan m), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit

crüt, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

guessing it was non-specific activation of EMS, cops showed up, banged on the door, heard an old black man answer, were racist, and killed him because all house calls should be made with extreme force

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure what the hell that's about, am I reading this wrong or was this really just random police brutality on someone who did the old guy equivilent of dialing 911 and hanging up?

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

jesus

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

is it standard to send armed police if you trip off yr medical alert pendant?

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

ogmor, I totally get and largely agree with what you're saying, but you do understand that sometimes people say "I wanna kill that fucking guy" without actually meaning it or intending to suggest that they'd use those exact words in expressing their displeasure to that guy.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah, but there's lots of shit its best not to say even if you don't mean it. anyway.

http://signon.org/sign/justice-for-kenneth-chamberl?source=mo&id=38418-6199198-CTTDgyx

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

And...see, stories like that are what breeds those moments of impotent rage towards awful people who do awful things for no goddamn good reason.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

if i saw a nyc cop get stabbed, i'd sit down on the curb and watch him bleed to death instead of calling for the reward

― candice spergin (cankles), Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:07 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wouldn't, but sometimes, man...

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

jesus, first i've heard of that

san diego cops are pretty nice guys in my experience, highway patrol guys are whatever, they only pull you over if you're already breaking the law (speeding, cell phone, etc)

but if i saw a sheriff get stabbed ...

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

america just has a problem with "cop culture" ... i think there's just too many people out there who buy into this idea that cops are the only thing standing in the way of total societal breakdown a la dirty harry, charles bronson, robocop, etc, like if cops didn't carry guns america would turn into a mad max style wasteland in a matter of weeks.

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

^ yeah, this is a real problem, imo. coupled with this is an ever-increasing acceptance of the idea that the danger & necessity of police work renders almost any sort of "collateral damage" acceptable. throw in america's general apathy about abuses of power, and cops are basically never held accountable for anything they do. you just hope never to run into them, and if you do, you hope that they don't happen to take killing offense to your "attitude" or w/e.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/george-zimmermans-legal-team-withdraws-council

“We have lost contact with him, we are not sure what he’s doing,” the lawyers said

^^^bit early maybe to rest much on it, but can't say this is a development that astonishes me

mark s, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

coupled with this is an ever-increasing acceptance of the idea that the danger & necessity of police work renders almost any sort of "collateral damage" acceptable.

see also: the "freedom isn't free" get out of jail card americans give their soldiers ("oh yeah, it's easy to criticize our troops while you sit there in your prius drinking a latte, i'm sure you would rather live in a taliban state") and the fact that many police (in san diego at least) are former military and yeah

formula for impunity

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

dude

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link


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