so can we start hounding this states attorney guy yet? or are we going stay fixated on the single paranoid shooter and ignore the gross institutional dysfunction demonstrated by how this case was handled
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
i think there is room for rage against both elmo, tbh
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/utcartoon.jpg
University of Texas Student Paper Wins 'Most Racist Trayvon Martin Cartoon' Contest
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
colored
― Hungry4Games (crüt), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
if you look at the rest of her cartoons she just seems like a very confused, not very bright person.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
at least she isn't just drawing five panels that feature the same stick figures in the same poses every week like every other college newspaper cartoonist. ;-)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
i wish someone could just draw arrows towards the key words, maybe underline them?
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
maybe mispell a name? you know, drive the point home
I guess 1997's nutty, the kitten with testicles for legs was a cartooning high water mark for the daily texan.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
I really look forward to having yet another thing to be ashamed of when I tell people I'm from Florida. even worse that I live like a half hour from where this happened. I mean shit would someone please submerge us?
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
i got the offer to relocate a year ago. said I'd think about it but probably in 2-3 years. thinking it might be a good time to bump that up a year or two.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
fucking daily texan
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
I really look forward to having yet another thing to be ashamed of when I tell people I'm from Florida.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:02 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
o/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
Bring back Martin Wagner imo
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
luckily it's March so I can tell people that I'm from Florida and they wanna party with me
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
MARTINCASE OFJOURNALIS
TREYVONAND THEYELLOW
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
xpost i s'pose i could offer free mojitos...
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
Angry Television Host Interviews Chair
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it isn't BAD to kill people. Fuck whoever drew that.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
with a bubonic plague infected dildo
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
vivid
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
i mean there was some news site that said "did the media rush to judgment on the Trayvon case? new developments re: Trayvon suggest they might have" AS IF HIM BEING A 17 YEAR OLD KID THAT TRIED A LITTLE MARIJUANA HAD ANY GODDAMN RELEVANCE ON TEH SHOOTING
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
I don't care what the law says, you don't kill unarmed people.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
Well ideally you dont kill people at all, imo. but anyway.
― zooey bechamel (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
Who are this guy's supporters other than straight-up racists at this point? Even if you're anti gun-control or pro stand-your-ground, this isn't the guy you want to be repping for as a great example of your cause.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:49 (twelve years ago) link
Who are this guy's supporters other than straight-up racists at this point?
what is that, only like 1 in 3 white people?
― the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:37 (twelve years ago) link
Fair point.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i know there are many more racists out there than that one white guy w/ his two non-racist friends but that is the intersection between "this guys supporters" and "straight-up racists"
i notice something though, among this guys supporters. a lot of them talk about "thugs", as in "when did a thug ever stand his ground?" or "when did a thug follow and handgun rule" or "dress like a thug die like a thug"
is that like, an actual thing that nra supporters worry about? thugs loose on the street, stealing jewelry with screwdrivers, selling weed and defacing the hallways?
― the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yes.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
it's like a particular stereotype?
i feel like it's not a word i hear out on the west coast, or if i do, it can refer to lots of different types of people.
― the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
or does it just mean people who dress like they're in rap videos?
― the late great, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link
i live on the west coast, and i feel like it's a common way for racists to describe certain young black men
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:14 (twelve years ago) link
inferring criminality & stupidity from dress & way of speaking
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
Thugs = those multiracial bands of bandanna-wearing bad guys you see in Michael Jackson videos and post-apocalyptic films of the 80s.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
should be called 'snipes'
― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
[T Sowell]There is no point in dressing like a hoodlum when you are not a hoodlum, even though that has become a fashion for some minority youths
[Nascar Pony]dressing like a hoodlum has lately become a fashion for minority youths? and not, like, all youths, sine the invention of the teenager?
Also, isn't that first quote getting it p much backwards or even close to circular, I mean isn't perception of "hoodlum dress" actually somewhat *determined* by how "youth on the street" dress?
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
not to mention HE WASN'T DRESSED LIKE A HOODLUM
― Nascar Pony (stevie), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.falconmotorcycles.com/images/stories/news/amaryllis_ian/marlon_brando_wild_one_13_rebels.jpg
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
most of this is all coming from that pic of the wrong Trayvon that is circulating on the web but regardless of whether it was or wasn't him it was irrelevant. We, really, in America, right now, in 2012, are debating what attire makes someone worthy of being treated like a thug.
sorry but hoodies are awesome. if it wasn't always 93 degrees in FL I'd wear them way more often. but then again I'm white so I wouldn't be considered a 'thug', I'd be 'stylish', rite?
fuckthisshit
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
oh boy too many years of reading the SFGate comments section has proven that 'thug' is alive and well as a not-really-disguised-at-all racist callout on the west coast. so many grisly comments after every shooting, during the oscar grant riots and trials, etc.the SFGate comments section is an all time cesspool.
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
All newspaper comments sections are cesspools. Cleveland.com readers managed to turn an article about Case Western students inventing a new temporary pothole fix into a racial dustup.
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
yea srsly just don't read em
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
I think how one comports oneself and how one dresses are perfectly valid reasons for someone to feel "threatened," depending on the context. But as many on this thread have noted, they are literally never an excuse to shoot someone. Guy wanted to be a dick, guy's allowed to call the police. Guy shouldn't be allowed to follow, shoot and kill a kid. Period.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
"valid" != "understandable"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
no
― iatee, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
It's totally "valid," depending on the context. I don't think it was in this case, though. Though it was "understandable," given this guy was likely a racist vigilante.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
'stylish' is not a word i usually associate with hoodies or white floridians tbhw/u
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
you guys haven't seen stylish until you've seen a white Canadian with sunburnt knees walking down Ocean Drive.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
I think how one comports oneself and how one dresses are perfectly valid reasons for someone to feel "threatened"
wrong
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
It is valid to feel threatened by someone based on how they are behaving towards you; for example, if they are staring at you, shouting at you, running after you, grabbing you, pointing a weapon at you, etc etc etc. What a person is wearing plays into how some of these actions are interpreted but that doesn't make the response "valid" unless all subconscious responses are "valid".
Someone wearing dark clothing walking down the sidewalk is not automatically a suspicious person. Someone wearing dark clothing peering into a first floor window while hiding behind a bush is suspicious, but not because they are wearing dark clothing.
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link