The 4 Best Dramas Of The Last 25 Years

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depends where you're from

iatee, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

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Which is...?

Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

Hogwarts

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

Full clemency.

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

i guess i missed Banana Republic's Harry Potter collection

Austerity Bronies (some dude), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

what are we arguing about now?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

i broke my own rule about getting lost in the rabbit hole of iatee's endless pointless devil's advocate act

Austerity Bronies (some dude), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

i think there were fashion tie-ins with it, but it was the British schoolchild look, with blazers and knee socks or whatever

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

wesley crusher could be a mad men character -- he'd be the most likeable & interesting of the lot of them, too.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

i think there were fashion tie-ins with it, but it was the British schoolchild look, with blazers and knee socks or whatever

oh sara, that's actually the Angus Young fashion tie-in.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

wesley crusher could be a mad men character

character's name is Pete Campbell btw

Pete Campbell is way way way less annoying than wesley crusher was

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Provided there aren't swastikas or pointed hoods involved, dressing up in costumes is dressing up in costumes, afaict.

Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

u read my mind, shakey

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

what madmen needs is a worf.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

what if Don Draper was a wookie?

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

actually isn't the madmen timeline now concurrent with historical airings of original series? maybe draper and co can visit the desilu studios and have drinkathons with shatner and nimoy

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

too meta ... and the OG star trek wasn't a hit when it was originally on network TV. draper et al would be more likely having drinkathons with the cast of i dream of jeannie or bewitched.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

lol the title sequence to mad men could be a fight scene b/w Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker ... with one of them falling into the void.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Done and done.

Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, never mind. They missed the obvious joke.

Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

but these are manufactured products of mass culture. it isn't like they're talking about folk culture, or its contemporary equivalent

well except they are

Lamp, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

But they're not -- they're just, no, it is a different dynamic. Perhaps it's condescending, but it isn't co-opting or appropriation in the way that term was orginally used

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

The Real Housewives of Buttmunch produced and aired on network television is not folk culture

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

^^^: an XXX parody

(Dre) vs. (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

animated gifs are better examples of folk culture today, real housewives is entertainment as a product

iatee, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

lol lamp there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

LARPing and A.V. Club comments are better examples of folk culture today.

Michael J. Fuxxx (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

animated gifs are better examples of folk culture today

i can agree with this

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

I agree w/ dwh also agree w/ sarahell agreeing with me

iatee, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

But they're not -- they're just, no, it is a different dynamic. Perhaps it's condescending, but it isn't co-opting or appropriation in the way that term was orginally used

yeah, sure, its a weak position really. but i mean the folk culture argument is p peripheral and im annoyed that i let bait me into it

Lamp, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

"there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything"

america's folkiest home videos!

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

"there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything"

so would this make tim and eric awesome show folk-art or at least some simulacrum of folk-art?!?

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

(jesus, this is like i'm back in a 1990s-era 400-level english/comp lit criticism class)

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

i think tim + eric's stuff is obv very influenced by folk art, but i don't think it is folk art itself

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

tom goes to the mayor was folk art, at least when it was a crappy web thing by two dorks, though that doesn't violate the "not-on-tv" rule.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

once you are a product being sold by a major international corporation to consumers throughout the world, i think you are no longer folk art. if you were folk art before that happened, you have likely being co-opted

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

been*

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

i am kinda o_O at a definition of "folk art" that would include Youtube videos like "I Don't Want My Pizza Burning" and anything by wendyvainity (though it makes sense).

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

It's totally folk art. Whether one's prescriptive and unevolving view of folk art allows them to accept it as such is a whole other issue.

Woodsy The Allen (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

total derail but anybody who likes folk art should go to the Smithsonian American Art Museum to look at the folk art collection especially

http://americanart.si.edu/images/1970/1970.353.1_1b.jpg

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

^^ mostly cardboard and tinfoil

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

Nine times out of ten, I prefer folk art to Fine Art.

Woodsy The Allen (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

so much coruscating schizo-religious weirdness

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Nine times out of ten, I prefer folk art to Fine Art.

otm so much

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah me too

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

can we talk abt decoupage next?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh, I could never take decoupage seriously, what with all of these obnoxious decoupage fans commenting on decoupage websites and dressing up like decoupage to go to their decoupage conventions. This has nothing to do with anxiety induced by a perceived threat to the rickety scaffolding of my precisely-curated Cool Guy identity. Because I can assure you that it will take more than the mere acknowledgement and passive acceptance of that which lies outside of my Sphere of Snobbery to send my sense of self collapsing into the void. I assure you.

Calvin Coolranch (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link


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