basically my thought is that if I was still smoking, I wouldn't need for my cigarettes to have a USB port
then again, my favorite brand when I smoked was Lucky Strike so me being suspicious of high tech smoking technology is pretty in-character
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
the other night we ran out of papers for our tobacco and we were like all upset
and then i was like WAIT! we can put it in a PIPE!
it was truly something
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqDhiPxqVQY
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
So I was doing sort of good at giving up but then I went to visit my parents and my stubborn as a mule mom still smokes at 73 so I wound up bumming some off her. Ooops. I'm not stressing it though. I'm pretty OK with having gone from a pack a day smoker to a couple cigs a week (if that) smoker.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
i was just gonna say i have never witnessed j0rdan so livid as on this thread and then
i don't hate people that smoke, i'll smoke a cig when i'm drinking with alfred
...YOU smoke as well? even casually?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
It is unfathomable to think that until not too long ago nobody minded smoking indoors – as in your office or home. I'm not a heavy smoker but when I started about thirteen years ago part of the attraction was taking a few minutes away from your chores.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
i largely agree with you anyway. aside from anything else it's ridiculously expensive, the first time i bought fags (for a friend) my jaw dropped at the price in the newsagent's.
it's like the one thing i don't do so it's where i get to have and enjoy my moral high ground
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
that was an xp agreeing w/j0rdan's rant
the smoking ban is the best thing to have happened to england in the past decade
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
just not getting people who can't give concession to a smoker standing outside the front doorway. you have contact with them for, what, .023 seconds? this is a huge improvement over having them immediately outside to wherever you work
not even a huge smoker myself - 1 pack every 2 weeks, mostly for socializing - but the pompousness of non-smokers is the fucking worst
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
i don't smoke... i've maybe smoked like... five cigarettes in the past year or something
and idk i think there's something especially shitty about smoking on the sidewalk where hundreds of people have no choice but to pass you by
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i don't really get the moral highground thing. this wknd i was talking to my sister in law who has never smoked a cigarette in her life, and even she was like "banning them in parks is so stupid"
it was really refreshing to hear
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol so wait where are people supposed to smoke?
you have contact with them for, what, .023 seconds? this is a huge improvement over having them immediately outside to wherever you work
this is fair enough but there's really an undeniable cumulative effect if you walk 8 blocks or something and there's one or two people standing outside every doorway, plus a few people walking down the sidewalk as well, that's really nauseating
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
― surm, Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:33 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark
cities should buy out of business storefronts and turn them into smoking lounges and ban smoking outdoors imo, shit is poisoning the air
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:05 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
see i think smoking in a park is okay because at least a park is theoretically expansive, like if someone is smoking next to you you can just get up and move 10 ft away, or ask them to do the same -- it's different in a dense, urban environment
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
I don't mind most smoking restrictions either – I don't miss smoking in a bar – but my university approved a total smoking ban without putting it to a student referendum (like UF did two years ago). No smoking areas at all; you can't even smoke in your car. We're using it as a marketing angle apparently – great, as if parents actually said, "Look, honey, not only is it affordable but you're not allowed to smoke!" But since university public safety isn't enforcing it we're relying on what administration helpfully calls "social enforcement." People are still smoking.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah i saw that jordan but ... i didn't think you were serious
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Nice smokers (me!) stand very far away from the doorway. There's a bit of an outdoor hallway at the entrance to my building and even I get pissed off when people (my coworkers!) stand there and smoke. Not nice.
E, I will probably be trouble for you. Sorry!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
or in a park you can make designated smoking areas or something
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
might I suggest
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_miIj52Df0WE/TJF57SLRwRI/AAAAAAAACq0/zEtl3bhv-V8/s1600/bubble+boy.jpg
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
― surm, Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:36 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark
(p.s. i'm not serious)
truthfully there is a lot of other shit poisoning the air. i live in nyc and i have never once walked down the street and thought 'o god all the cigarette smoke, i'm suffocating'
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
fuck that smoke-free campus bullshit - if I have back to back exams, I'd like a fucking cigarette in between
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
really, I guess if you're getting black lung from people smoking outdoors in a city, this is probably a better point of comparison
http://www.stargatecinema.com/images/magictoolbox_cache/489-04_t_400.jpg
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm totally cool w/ banning smoking on college campuses, lot of foot traffic there too
tho i do think that even in that situation you could make a smoking area of shame
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
"banning them in parks is so stupid"
As much as I agree for the most part, there is always this:
http://www.keeppbcbeautiful.org/P1010895sm.jpg
― On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:33 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i get it. i guess i'm just not receptive to 2nd-hand smoke as some... unless somebody is sitting directly on the seat next to me on a bench will i not notice the smell nor worry about the smell transposing itself onto my clothing. actually, rarely do i notice the smell of somebody actually in process of smoking - it's that lingering when you have to work with someone that clearly just smoked a whole pack before meeting with you. the smell is twice as bad indoors b/c of the lack of airflow - outdoors i can deal with it as a byproduct of living with other people.
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
to be real i actually like it when i see ppl smoking on the sidewalk these days, bc it's so fucking taboo now, i appreciate it when someone doesn't feel so damn self conscious about it
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - FFM no you won't. I have already thought ahead and made peace with the fact that I will most definitely be smoking that night. So much so that I've already planned on buying a pack here because there's no goddamn way I'm paying $12 in NYC. I pretty much only smoke when socializing (read: drinking) which I intend to do plenty of that night so it's all good.
I will say that seeing as how I don't smoke most days anymore I really do notice it when people stand outside and smoke during the day. It doesn't bother me but I can understand why people think it's gross. I've also been in the elvator with someone who just smoked and been taken aback by how bad it can smell.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
welllll maybe you don't notice cause you smoke anyway 'there's other shit poisoning the air' doesn't excuse more shit poisoning the air
― iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
I was watching home movies from the 90s not too long ago, and yeah, could not get over just how casual it was to sit in someone's living room and light up.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
i actually think this in itself is a mark of shame, like they've been exiled from the building to smoke.
the day i understood what addiction is was when i'd just come out of the theatre near earl's court in the middle of grim grim winter and it was FREEZING and also PISSING DOWN with rain and me & my friend were running to the tube station and we passed this really nice, well-heeled but also quite cosy-looking restaurant - it just looked like the most ideal haven from the weather. and outside it - there wasn't even a canopy for shelter - were two guys in suits hunched miserably over, getting drenched, and smoking. like what the actual fuck!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
In Florida it's already illegal to smoke less than 20 feet from a public building, so you eliminate the problem of student smoking by entrances by moving ashtrays twenty feet away or creating smoking areas like you see in Disney World or Disneyland.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
There was this rockabilly dude smoking at the playground recently. While some were waving their hands in the air, a former smoker and I stood there and went *sniff, sniff*.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
i don't smoke during the day, so i don't think that is the reason i don't notice it. i just ... live and let live. doesn't bother me if people need to step outside for a smoke. only 7 years ago or so ppl were smoking in my office.
no i guess it doesn't excuse the pollution thing, but there are plenty of worse pollutants is all i'm sayin.
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
lex i'm just talking about people walking and smoking, not people camped outside the office building door. it is not a mark of shame to take a walk and have a smoke.
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:44 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah, it's crazy that ppl will go stand outside to smoke in body-numbing weather
but on the other hand i feel that same way about walking a dog, so
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:45 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
One of my professors in college once called me out for just having smoked before going ot her office hours. I thought she was going to yell at me but instead he was like mMMMMMMM let me smell you, I miss it so!
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
Smug assholes walking by and coughing or waving their hands deserve death though.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
otm
I did manage to bring a couple of my mom's back from FL with me (cigs not packs) and now have one. Will I smoke it tonight? You bet. Hi, I'm ENBB. I'm a pescetarian and a flexismoker. I only smoke if I don't want cigarettes to go to waste. Or am drunk.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean having this conversation on ilx is fine, but dredging it up in front of people who are like about to have a cigarette is not OK unless you are that person's mother. and that's just the way it is folks!
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost irl lol's
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
er, xxxpost i meant
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yeah i wouldn't do that cuz i know most smokers hate themselves for smoking, so it's pretty shitty to berate them over it
plus my favorite method of showing displeasure is derisive eye rolling anyway
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
The weather here has been all muggy and humid lately. Been having flashbacks of cranking up the defroster, cracking a window and lighting a Lucky Light.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
people need to smoke more j's in public is the real truth here
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
was it the late nineties when private businesses started banning smoking in offices? Somebody help me.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
what drives me nuts about abstaining from cigs, tho, is that feeling of "loss" when you just have to walk from Point A to Point B. it's like...the fuck do i do with my hands now?
so the first weeks after cutting some heavy smoking was i carrying around a water bottle all the time and just swigging from it continually until i knew there'd be a point where i thought "this is just ridiculous", but no, now i just piss a lot and finger the buttons on my shirt
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
lol. the worst for me is telephone conversations or drunken social interactions. like, there's just no way. something's getting smoked.
― surm, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link