http://io9.com/5893731/the-dark-shadows-trailer-this-might-be-tim-burtons-most-ridiculous-movie-yet
Check out the first ever trailer for Tim Burton's swinging 70s vampire epic Dark Shadows. And it looks like Burton is taking it to the max — not a single bit of 70s shtick is left untouched by Johnny Depp's fluttery dance steps (someone literally tries to kill him with a giant disco ball).
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
Meh
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
...
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
uh oh, cheesy people living in an undead's house? sounds like a good cause for a michael keaton cameo!
― da croupier, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
Will prob never see another Burton movie, but maybe we at least get a good Elfman score out of this.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
And here I was thinking that Mirror, Mirror looked like the worst and most unnecessary movie of the year. Congratulations, Tim Burton. Congratulations.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I dunno. Mirror Mirror looks worse than this.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
i think it actually looks decent compared to his last 6-7 cinematic war crimes. at least depp's only schtick is a british accent.
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 15 March 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
c'mon, Sweeney Todd was his best in eons
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Sweeney Todd was great
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
ah yeah, i didnt see that. he'd annihilated any good will i had for him by that point, so i gave it a wide berth. maybe i'll peep it
this basically looks like the addams family and i think i could dig on that
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
This looks awesome
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
t. rex in the trailer; Depp kinda biting this look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQUgcFq9w6U
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
i got some of the o.g. dark shadows from netflix a few months ago. it's really draggy and repetitive in spots (it's a serialized soap opera), but where it succeeds is the sense of dread that comes from the low-budget sparseness. in that way it's very english for an american series -- it's "spooky" rather than "scary." i don't know if tim burton knows how to push those buttons. i don't want a fucking whimsical barnabas collins; i want him to be quiet, shy, polite, and sad.
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
It's a total Brady bunch the movie thing I guess
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
Or an Addams Family movie thing.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
okay, i just watched the trailer... oy vey.
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^^ cosigned
― Stravinsky joins the Zulu nation (zero of the signified), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I don't feel sorry for any of you who actually pay money to see this. I'll at least refrain from saying I told you so.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
at least he's trying something vaguely new right?
the last few burton films, they could have just assembled a "tim burton filmmaking committee" to replace the actual tim burton and the movies would have come to about the same thing.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
im getting a bit of an ed wood vibe tbh, an exaggerated more 'comedy' one but that's what depp's reminding me of here and i kinda am ok with that
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i was getting a bit of that feel too. i thought some of the gags were pretty funny too
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
It had a very "Jump in the line, rock your body in time" vibe to me. So I'd argue that, no, he doesn't seem to really be stretching out so much as reaching further back into his filmography for tropes to recycle.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
its probably gonna be more like mars attacks! but i'll still take that over alice in wonderland
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
beetlejuice is his best film though so i guess if he has to recycle himself...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
all the '70s jokes are so plaaaaaaaaayed tho
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
get bent otm about the low-budget spookiness of the original property being its strongest point
sad to see something killed that could have stayed undead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSbCqp_a3iE
― Brad C., Friday, 16 March 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
c'mon i hate burton as much as anybody but when did you guys start hating fun so much, jeez! i will watch the hell out of anything that allows depp to be as campily ridiculous as he can be
trailer reminds me of edward scissorhands, too
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 March 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, March 16, 2012 4:06 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
I was about 9 when "Dark Shadows" was huge and never gave a shit about it. Boring. So again, what is the allure of reworking something that has no cultural currency with the "target demo"?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
why dont they just form a singularity in their pants
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
horror + soap opera, what could be worse?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://open.spotify.com/user/lathamgreen/playlist/6oAn3jbCEuSOLGopVcuSMN
dark entries !! dark entries!!! Barnabus!! Peter!!
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
horror+ soap opera + reality show
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know how much cultural currency the original show has now, but people who never even saw it might see this b/c of Depp, Burton, vampires, they like the trailer, or for whatever reason they go to other movies. There are people who probably don't even know this is based on an tv show.I actually love Dark Shadows but have no need to see it get the "Burton/Depp treatment" Sweeney Todd was okay but most of the recent ones have been terrible (or looked terrible.) If anything they are probably worse for people who have any fondness for or knowledge of the source material.
― MrDasher, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's an older This American Life episode about a dude who goes to a Dark Shadows convention
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
there could be non-cynical reasons for reviving it, like burton & co just dig it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
I want to say "wtf people Sweeney Todd sucked" but I think my distaste for Sondheim had a lot to do with that opinion.
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
The best thing I can say about the last 15 years of Tim Burton's career(having not seen Sweeney Todd) is that Charlie & The Chocolate Factory wasn't awful.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not a huge fan of Batman, but pretty much everything he did >15 years ago ranges from solid to wonderful.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Are you kidding? That was the worst one of that entire period!
(xpost)
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
I remember Sweeney Todd being not as bad as the others, but I like Stephen Sondheim. Though, they left out The Ballad Of Sweeney Todd and didn't employ good singers. I don't actually remember much else about it.
― MrDasher, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5941081/tim-burtons-secret-formula
sure this has appeared on multiple tim burton threads but def applies to this trailer
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
that said, aside from Ed Wood, I've seen little reason to think Tim Burton should leave his wheelhouse
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
ed wood is pretty firmly in his wheelhouse
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
i think we both know how the point-counterpoint on that goes
― da croupier, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
shall we?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
en garde!
weird old hollywood, b-movies, misfit protagonists, johnny depp.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
go!
I walked in expecting it to be terrible and ended up rather enjoying it. I mean, it's a mess. But it was pretty and funny enough. I guess Burton's twee goth stuff holds some kind of inherent appeal for me. Surprised by how raunchy it was however. Tone-wise, weird juxtaposition between goofy childishness and blow-jobs...
― Mercer Finn, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it was weirdly raunchy.
BTW i had no fucking idea that dark shadows was a failing soap that decided to add a vampire after a year! that's wild.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
(i knew it was a soap, i just figured it was about vampires from the beginning. maybe the sudden revelation that chloe moretz is a werewolf was an homage to the way the original show just tossed in a new element when things were getting stale.)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
The last Tim Burton film I thought was of any value was The Corpse Bride, and before that Big Fish. Dark Shadows looked appealing from the trailer, but it's taking a beating here. I'll probably wait for video.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
amateurist, you're dumping spoilers all over this piece like a leaky garbage bag.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
trust me, it won't matter to anyone.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link
That's interesting trivia! I had no idea. Just think what could've been had Passions really taken off.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
HBC stealing JD's essence --> JD kills HBC in horrible fashion, and we're supposed to cheer.
um, rather than cheer, i felt we were supposed to see that barnabus' treatment of julia replicated/inverted angela's treatment of barnabus, and i never for a moment thought that spoiler spoiler spoiler.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
spoilers spoilers here be spoilers i guess
hmmm, i wonder how that scene was intended to play. i think we were supposed to be amused by it, maybe a little horrified, but ultimately sympathetic to barnabas who after all is the protagonist. if we were supposed to wonder about our identification with barnabas maybe burton could have made that clearer?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
jeez, the corpse bride has its moments but is such a sad, pale shadow of the nightmare before christmas. and big fish is too mawkish by half (at least). i kind of like sweeney todd, but the last burton feature i can endorse without reservation is sleepy hollow, going back some 8 films and 13 years.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
pfft to you and your mawkish, I <3 Big Fish
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
unreservedly love Sweeney Todd
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
PFFT PFFT PFFT
except sweeney todd is pretty okay
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
pffffffffffffffffffffft
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 05:49 (twelve years ago) link
I like fish out of water stuff. It's hackey and has been done a million times, but honestly, what hasn't?
Haven't seen this yet tho.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
wd put perm stake thru movie vampires, kidz.
but HBC will surely be back for the sequel!
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:42 (twelve years ago) link
the nihilism in Alice was about the only thing that movie had going for it
I still wish they'd gone whole hog and had a hero/villain inversion where it was revealed that the White Queen was actually treacling Wonderland to death and the Red Queen's tyranny was the only thing keeping the realm alive, making the story more about balancing the forces than eradicating the evil. Maybe then they wouldn't have felt the need to shoehorn in the fucking fudderwacken.
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
(Basically I wanted that movie to end with Alice committing a violent pogrom against the White Queen's forces while sobbing her eyes out, eventually waking up back in the real world shaken, upset, and wholly mistrustful of authority and power. So yeah, the nihilism it had didn't bother me so much.)
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
The trailer for Frankenweenie actually makes it look halfway decent.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
There was a nice DS moment in Pfeiffer's interview of the governess, where she's trying to ferret out if she's a lefty freak, asking "What do you think of the war?" "I don't watch TV." Seems left over from an earlier, smarter script.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:30 AM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know! but won't be fooled again etc.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
and we never barnabus him
This is still cracking me up.
― Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
I pushed to go see this based on the trailer and a got a friend sort of excited about seeing it, but now I really don't want to go see it and she still does and I'm probably going to wind up seeing it.
How can I prepare myself to Barnabus this?
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
get drunk
and take heart that Alice Cooper appears halfway through to break the monotony
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 May 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
it's not intolerable or anything, it's mildly amusing. in other words, barnabusing it is strictly optional.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:08 (twelve years ago) link
it's better than Big Fish.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
"I swear I won't pull it away this time, Charlie Brown. Honest."
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
exactly.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
although i kind of initially read that as "i swear i'll pull out this time"
So Lucy was a tranny.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
worst reboot ever.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
Pee-Nuts
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
As we speak...a new generation of fangirls is applying Rule 34 to Peanuts, and probably every other cartoon with which you grew up.
― challoped potatoes (j.lu), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol from tumblr:
Tim Burton should just make a movie called ‘Johnny Depp’. plot twist: Johnny Depp is played by Helena Bonham Carter.
plot twist: Johnny Depp is played by Helena Bonham Carter.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 May 2012 07:13 (eleven years ago) link
wd watch
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
if it was done sleuth style with hbc playing both characters it could work
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHchmWsrfUo
^ ultimate fish out of water film
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
Wound up getting out of seeing it by getting showtime wrong and giving up.
― Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
I'm watching this now. Not bad, a few dumb montages aside. It is hard to buy Eva Green as an evil witch though.
If the thought of Johnny Depp playing a vampire for under 2 hours appeals to you, you will enjoy this.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
beg to differ
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
i *thought* that idea appealed to me until I saw Dark Shadows
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's incredibly stupid and watered down. But that doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable. It just means they had like 6 producers and you end up with a safe Hollywood movie that lets Tim Burton goth out in a big-budget way.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
As a soap Passions just got worse and worse
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
It is stupid and watered down. It isn't particularly enjoyable. Werewolf reveal was the biggest deus ex whogivesafuck ever. So why do I sometimes feel like defending this one? Must have something to do with Eva Green.
― Eric H., Monday, 3 September 2012 03:52 (eleven years ago) link
It's been a long time since I felt moved to walk out of a theater. Dark Shadows is as close as I've come. Not walk out in disgust as much as, I'd rather go sit in the parking lot.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 September 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
Alice Cooper was cool tho
They should have made Alice Cooper the werewolf.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link