the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

Lucas' late 70s plans for a Bondesque franchise are actually all kinds of awesome. Can't be bothered to dig up the quote, but I would love to see the minimal dialogue droids only film he proposed.

And you can sense his excitement in those early interviews for being the creator of a fun, quirky, unexpectedly mega-popular new thing, as opposed to the later burdened beard-faced Keeper of the New Western Myth.

it's great that he uses the Blade Runner example. For the blu-ray release, we got 6 (I think) versions of the movie: original, director's cut, restored with new effects, workprint etc. And Scott was appreciative of how fans could have their different favorites and no one was "definitive."

yeah that's a great counterpoint to the way lucas has handled star wars. in fact i know folks who have compared the different versions of blade runner in class -- so the fact that they are all easily available (and on blu-ray, no less) is a godsend.

i don't think any of the versions of B.R. have new effects though? there was the original workprint, the original scott cut that went unreleased, the version released in 1982, an edit scott made for a 1990s release which is a reworking of his original cut, and finally the so-called "definitive" version that scott put together a few years back. i'm not aware that any of these have new effects work. i thought it was different edits, essentially--and a revised soundtrack.

the bluray has new effects, but it's very subtle. Sprucing up the lighting in the cityscapes and stuff.

there's not like, little monkey shaped aliens running around in the background or anything.

ah, i see.

they didn't add a fat funny-accented replicant sidekick for comic relief?

he added in a whole new scene of Deckard wearing a negligee jerking off over a photo of his maybe-mom...changes EVERYTHING

that does make sense of the final scene where edward james olmos

spoiler

leaves an origami version of deckard's mom in the hallway. i always wondered what was up with that.

'improved'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd7Wh4vrVyk

Yub-Yub: Gone but not forgotten.

The GF and I saw TPM in 3-D tonight, mostly because we couldn't think of anything better to do.

I really wish we'd have thought of something better to do :(

Hopefully you guys got well lit before the show.

fucking yub nub

;_;

The GF and I saw TPM in 3-D tonight, mostly because we couldn't think of anything better to do.

I really wish we'd have thought of something better to do :(

― Millsner, Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:41 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spending a night on the toilet due to diarrhea is probably preferable to seeing that film again. at least you can get some reading done.

re. those clips i don't think return of the jedi is really any better than the prequels.

oh c'mon

like on a visual level alone...

http://neofilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/return-of-the-jedi-poster.jpg

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-phantom-menace-movie-poster-01.jpg

it's amazing how consistently awful the visual design of every single thing in the new trilogy is: padme's costumes, jar jar, darth maul's makeup, liam neeson's face

http://dyn3.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/17726540.jpg.size-300_maxheight-300_square-true.jpg

http://di1-3.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/1e/d8/c7/46478690-260x260-0-0_Hasbro+Star+Wars+Episode+I+Sebulba+s+Pod+Racer+Wit.jpg

"we" got 6 versions of Blade Runner, eh

$ucker$

imagine how much better it would have been if Neeson played Qui-Gon like his character in Taken

xp i don't want my 'thing' to be to pop into fantasy threads and explain how the fictions people are talking about fail at realism, but it's interesting how there's a strong vein of form-follows-function in the originals. vs stuff like the pod racers, which come on.

even darth vader's costume (!) was a series of devolopments like: well, he needs a ventilator. and armor, also. so what if the ventilator and the armor are joined. huh that looks kind of cool. -- whereas darth maul's is just so plainly the result of straining to invent a 'cool villain look'

liam neeson and ewan mcgregor got so shafted when they agreed to do those movies, i think

like how long do you think you're attached to fuckin' star wars before you get a script

by that point how far past too late is it to call your agent and go 'hey maybe i don't want to be a jedi, you know'

and then when you've made one horrible film and you know you're stuck there for two more

I still remember a reporter breaking the news to Ewan McGregor that the second film was going to be named Attack of the Clones and his subsequent shock and disbelief. I think he had no idea of what he was getting into.

"we" got 6 versions of Blade Runner, eh

$ucker$

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:05 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i paid $12.50. they overproduced that thing, and you can get copies for nothing.

"we" got 6 versions of Blade Runner, eh

$ucker$

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They all came in the same set...?

Lol

to be fair to ewan tho what would you do if you were cast as OBI WAN FUCKING KENOBI and you show up to the set the first day and find out you have to do a scene opposite the kid from jingle all the way and stepin fechit inside a blue room?

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't be quoted enough IMO. Really, really makes you feel for these guys.

RotJ is underrated. The Jabba sequence, the epic space battle, the Emperor's camp hamminess - all top-drawer.And the Ewoks really aren't too bad, though I like them best when they're trying to cook and eat all the heroes.

Otm

cosign

can't be quoted enough IMO. Really, really makes you feel for these guys.

Yeah but no-one thinks those movies suck because of Ewan & Liam, it's all GL's fault. Any embarrassment is drowning in their 3rd summer homes' new pools.

As for ROTJ, the new CGI scene kind of ruins it forever imo.

Same thing with all the originals imho

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/why-star-wars-prequels-better-original-trilogy-160300514.html

haha Yahoo Contributor Network was always a horrible idea for this reason.

had to double check that it wasn't Armond White slumming it on Yahoo but whomever it is has studied him well...

Trolling for fun & pageviews probably.

Yeah but it's not just a dinosaur butt moving in front of the frame for a split second, or a bunch of tiny whizzing robots zooming around. It's a scene where Jabba the Hutt is killing some poor slave girl and now that action is inter-cut with achingly show-offy CGI of a cartoon singing in extreme closeup. Instead of the scene being menacing, now it's menacing for 2 seconds, then silly for 2 seconds, then back and forth between the two until it just kinda ends with the death of the girl while an alien goes "Uh-oh!" like some effing Bugs Bunny cartoon.

no i'd wager this doof actually believes it given the pretentious language and far-reaching analogies, including one involving Bush despite shooting for Phantom Menace happening well before he was elected xpost

still not as funny as that "mirroring" essay

Why don't things ever pop out of the screen in nu 3D movies? That was kind of the only fun thing about them.

I found myself enjoying TPM more for the film itself than for any changes brought by the 3D, which was minimal at best.

Wait, so is the TPM 3D just... the Phantom Menace, in 3D? I was sort of banking on Lucas going back and changing a bunch of shit so that people would be flying more directly at the screen and so on.

Also sort of expected him to add a bunch more Jar-Jar just to be a prick. And fulfill his long-suppressed original vision, obviously.

I like them best when they're trying to cook and eat all the heroes.

seriously. i love those murderous pagan teddy bears.

Xpost

The 3D was very subtle. I didn't notice any obvious big changes.