"from what I hear"
the Ten Worst guy genuinely loathed The Artist before all the awards hoopla took off. Once in awhile you might believe people mean what they say, CYNICS.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
financed entirely outside of the US = foreign for Hollywood's purposes
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
reminds me that the oscars, etc. really aren't about film, but about hollywood's perception of film
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
i probably shouldn't pass judgment on something b4 i see it, tru : /
― omar little, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
so Woody Allen makes foreign films now?
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
sort of! One of the production companies listed for Midnight in Paris are basically "his," it is US-based. All the others seem to be Spanish.
Gravier ProductionsMediaproPontchartrain ProductionsTelevisió de Catalunya (TV3)Versátil Cinema
Sony distributes him only.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
― omar little, Friday, February 10, 2012 12:08 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and yet you're totally correct...
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
its hard to say with just financing tho, esp when so many movies are criss-crossing intl copros these days
then again, midnight in paris isnt even set in the US, so you may have a point
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Artist isn't even entertaining at a basic level. I kept watching and thinking, "When's this thing gonna start?"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:02 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do you hate delightful dogs
when youve seen them do the exact same stuff in entertaining comedies from the '20s and '30s, maybe.
Jung shd've had a cute dog, that wd've produced "buzz."
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
The Artist is one dog that's not delightful.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
i do concur that ADM would have benefited from canine sidekicks for all three main characters
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:23 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oof.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/sampatchley/itstinks.gif
― omar little, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Hahaha
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
The Artist is one dog that's not delightful.― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:23 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkoof.― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:24 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:24 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
I think you mean woof.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
that dog won't hunt
― original bgm, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
really enjoyed ADM and didn't find it biopic-ey at all btw! loved the pacing here and the same goes for just about all of cronenberg's movies. they always seem to have a natural, gradual build and generally don't overstay their welcome.
― original bgm, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
re: his movies being concise or at least not rambling, according to Christopher Hampton, Croney likes his scripts to be exactly 97 pages long, without exception. (Hampton's last draft was something like 115, till Cronenberg got his hands on it, and got it down to...97.)
― Simon H., Friday, 10 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Frankly, what was happening btwn Freud and Jung was not going to change in America. Nothing to see there.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
re: the 97 thinglol Cronenberg the 5 percenter
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
cronenberg otm
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
97 page thing is hilarious
― original bgm, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
CW is a minute of film per page
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
wish more directors followed that rule
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Cronenberg himself hasn't written an original script in age.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
*ages
i want to live at the Jung's house
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
Jungs'
― lil kink (Matt P), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
you'd end up a freudned jungster.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
not at the same time as them obviously. I'd keep the boat though
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
peter sarsgaard was so hot in this
― lil kink (Matt P), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
wait what
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
I missed him!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
i'm pretty sure he wasn't in it
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah he wasn't
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
following up from the screenplay thing - for the curious, recent Cronenberg runtimes:
ADM: 94Eastern Promises: 100History of Violence: 96Spider: 98eXistenZ: 97Crash: 100/90 (depending on the cut)
― Simon H., Friday, 10 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
also liked how sabina was the only character who wasn't reprehensible, the the movie didn't ask you to condone the boys' behavior, but you could empathize with them because shit is complicated
xp oh god i meant uhhh fassbender
― lil kink (Matt P), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
he just couldn't cut a minute of that bathhouse fight
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Mrs. Jung wasn't reprehensible. She wasn't much anything though (except v. pretty)
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. She was very much in the Edith Wharton-Joseph Roth vein.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
I see from imdb she's also playing the wife in Cosmopolis
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
dudes "foreign film" is code for "foreign language" film. that's why you don't see british heritage films in the foreign section at video stores.
as for the artist, it does kind of scuttle this classification scheme. which is probably one reason the weinstein's figured they could market it heavily -- it doesn't really present itself as "foreign" in the same was as even "girl w/ dragon tattoo" or whatever.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
what language is it in again?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
is that a joke? isn't it 95% silent -- are the few words spoken dubbed into english for the american release?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
i guess what i mean by biopic-y is, not in the sense of being flabby or histrionic, but just the problem when you're doing a movie about real peoples lives - real life isnt particularly dramatized, stops and starts in weird places, etc. a lot of people have lived fascinating lives but they dont always make for good drama
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 4:40 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 4:40 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
he's always aggressive about shaping the scripts at the preproduction stage, though
and as a guy who thinks very nearly every movie made these days needs to have 20 minutes lopped off, i love crones for bein a nazi about this - but at the same time i think ADM should've been longer!
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
when i hear something is biopic-y, i think of a film constructed really episodically that doesn't have a clear through-line. in other words, it kind of squanders a shapely narrative in favor of a (not necessarily historically accurate) series of "representative" episodes or scènes à faire.
good examples would be coal miner's daughter (which is not a bad movie, although it starts off really strong and then gets more boring as it goes on) or control (which is a terrible movie).
i don't get the sense that ADM is biopic-y in this sense.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
its not
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
it doesnt have any scenes that are like WHATS UP FREUD YOU WON THE BIG PSYCHIATRY AWARD
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link