A Dangerous Method -- David Cronenberg/Viggo Mortensen's latest

nah, I doubt I saw a dozen better last year.

A minor movie can still make a year-end list; you've included lots of films to which you've given mild positive reviews over the years.

this probably would've been my favorite movie when i was 19. it just came out too late...

is ADM really struggling to get seen?

also, what does it have to do with 'the artist'

ADM is at the local multiplex now, which is better than I thought it would get. Awards not responding though.

the artist is doing well because it's a friendly movie that had an ENORMOUS media push from the beginning. i mean, how many movie ads do you see on TV anymore, much less for a foreign film?

i get the feeling ADM has gotten minimal support from its distributor.

i have no idea what to expect from this one. i'm kind of dreading it.

is the artist actually doing well? i heard something on npr that implied that it wasn't

It isn't really, no.

Considering the number of theatres its in and the marketing push it has gotten, that is.

well it's made more money than most foreign films make in the US, that's for sure.

they are certainly pushing it really hard, though. like nothing i've ever seen actually, in terms of films that seemed destined for "art houses."

btw in industry parlance the multiplexes that reserve a few screens for "offbeat" fare like ADM are called "smart houses" (get it?) -- basically your standard multiplex but in a bit city or a town with lots of people with college degrees.

i get the feeling ADM has gotten minimal support from its distributor.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:40 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

well they clearly wish it was a different movie from the one cronenberg made

i have no idea how the artist is being pushed, i guess i dont really care? it seems like such a silly movie for self-confessed cinephiles to get upset about. i mean its a very slight and not that great movie, but if people really want to get excited about a black-and-white, silent french film... it is kind of not the worst thing to happen?

welcome back to ilx bro

*glances meaningfully at half-unpacked suitcase*

I think my colleague who put The Artist on his Ten Worst list wd disagree w/ you, bro.

Both ADM and The Artist are foreign films. One just had the belching power of H Weinstein behind it.

ADM's North American gross to date is $4.6 M; The Artist is $20.6, and I figure it might reach 45-50 with the Oscar win.

slocki, i don't have an opinion on the artist as movie -- i haven't seen it. i was just saying that it's being marketed real aggressively, which doesn't reflect on the film one way or the other.

lol putting the artist on a 10 worst list is exactly the kind of meta-snobby critical overreaction i'm talking about

seeing this on Tuesday

lol @ calling ADM a "foreign" film

its about foreigners

the artist from what i hear is basically kinda like good-natured semi-parody of silent films in a way, like the oss films are of spy thrillers? problem w/films that are "not bad" or "pretty good" getting huge critical acclaim is that then people feel the need to overcorrect and call them crimes against cinema or w/e, when if they'd just remained under the radar they wouldn't catch the vitriol w/o a doubt.

iMdB (which goes by where the production companies are based):

Country: UK | Germany | Canada | Switzerland

xxp

The Artist isn't even entertaining at a basic level. I kept watching and thinking, "When's this thing gonna start?"

"from what I hear"

the Ten Worst guy genuinely loathed The Artist before all the awards hoopla took off. Once in awhile you might believe people mean what they say, CYNICS.

financed entirely outside of the US = foreign for Hollywood's purposes

reminds me that the oscars, etc. really aren't about film, but about hollywood's perception of film

i probably shouldn't pass judgment on something b4 i see it, tru : /

financed entirely outside of the US = foreign for Hollywood's purposes

so Woody Allen makes foreign films now?

sort of! One of the production companies listed for Midnight in Paris are basically "his," it is US-based. All the others seem to be Spanish.

Gravier Productions
Mediapro
Pontchartrain Productions
Televisió de Catalunya (TV3)
Versátil Cinema

Sony distributes him only.

i probably shouldn't pass judgment on something b4 i see it, tru : /

― omar little, Friday, February 10, 2012 12:08 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and yet you're totally correct...

its hard to say with just financing tho, esp when so many movies are criss-crossing intl copros these days

then again, midnight in paris isnt even set in the US, so you may have a point

The Artist isn't even entertaining at a basic level. I kept watching and thinking, "When's this thing gonna start?"

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:02 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do you hate delightful dogs

when youve seen them do the exact same stuff in entertaining comedies from the '20s and '30s, maybe.

Jung shd've had a cute dog, that wd've produced "buzz."

The Artist is one dog that's not delightful.

i do concur that ADM would have benefited from canine sidekicks for all three main characters

The Artist is one dog that's not delightful.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:23 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oof.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/sampatchley/itstinks.gif

Hahaha

The Artist is one dog that's not delightful.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:23 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oof.

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:24 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think you mean woof.

that dog won't hunt

really enjoyed ADM and didn't find it biopic-ey at all btw! loved the pacing here and the same goes for just about all of cronenberg's movies. they always seem to have a natural, gradual build and generally don't overstay their welcome.

re: his movies being concise or at least not rambling, according to Christopher Hampton, Croney likes his scripts to be exactly 97 pages long, without exception. (Hampton's last draft was something like 115, till Cronenberg got his hands on it, and got it down to...97.)

Frankly, what was happening btwn Freud and Jung was not going to change in America. Nothing to see there.

re: the 97 thing
lol Cronenberg the 5 percenter

cronenberg otm

97 page thing is hilarious

CW is a minute of film per page

wish more directors followed that rule