2008 Primaries Thread

I’ve been skeptical of an Obama/Salazar nomination since it was first discussed on Meet the Press a year or two ago. If Senator Salazar is in the conscious of any Democrat, it is either for:

1. Introducing and supporting former Attorney General Gonzales.
2. Lambasting MoveOn and the anti-war movement for supporting Ned Lamont against Senator Lieberman.

This isn’t to say he hasn’t been an excellent senator, he has, but Obama will need to strengthen the base by selecting an experienced, and beloved liberal. Frankly, it might be wise to look at former politicians, not contemporary ones.

One more comment about playing the Latino vote. If we’re serious about playing racial politics to gain a Democratic advantage we should be putting pressure on Governor Richardson to run against Senator Domenici. This is a winnable seat for Richardson.

Oops. Not run against, but run for Domenici’s seat. Obviously.

boy do i hate 'conscious' as noun. i agree that richardson should run for domenici's seat (and don't think of him as a great veep candidate). i also probably agree that obama may/should pick an experienced former politician. i don't agree necessarily that that candidate will/should be a base-reassuring liberal. i think the closest you'll get is an outspoken older type who is credible on non-ideological grounds like bradley or gore.

salazar wouldn't be my favorite veep pick, but i wouldn't mind him either. he would certainly reinforce the this-is-not-the-old-democratic-party message.

People are underestimating the Democrats ability to combust. More so than the dramatically fractured Republicans, I believe the Democrats will be unable to fully compromise on a candidate.

Senator Obama and Clinton’s supporters detest each other with a fervor that I believe to be unmatched in the Republican party, or by any prior Democratic contest and supporters of John Edwards are simply confused to why the Democratic party has shifted from its historical values.

Whomever is nominated will have to do the impossible task of reuniting their party. A task becoming increasingly difficult when primary margins are shrinking rather than widening.

While we can speak specifically to the nuances that push Clinton to the left of Obama or vice versa I think the flag-barer Democratic blocs, who have thus far been somewhat underrepresented, see both as too moderate to represent their long-held Democratic values. A liberal on the bottom of the ticket will go a long way to bringing together the party.

There’s certainly the issue that no one clearly stands out as a potential running mate for Obama. Simply put, there’s too many shortages in his potential candidacy that would usually be filled by their vice presidency for one person, and those who come close tend to be supporters of Clinton or Edwards. As soon as a potential name is brought up it takes no-time to shoot it down.

Frankly its reminiscent of President Bush. Remember when Lynne Cheney seemed like a likely choice for his running mate?

I think the flag-barer Democratic blocs, who have thus far been somewhat underrepresented, see both as too moderate to represent their long-held Democratic values

RONG

Um, OK? Why?

flag-barer?

Pete Domenici just announced he'll be retiring because of some disease or another.

is obama connected w/the dlc?

is obama connected w/the dlc?

No.

obama has the endorsement of the 5 most liberal senators. i think its pretty clear where he stands even if goofy edwards supporters still dont get it and confuse juvenile us-against-them confrontationalism w/ "real liberal" values

Governor Romney paid tribute to Martin Luther King, Jr. when speaking to a group of employees at Gate Petroleum today and then shook hands and posed for photos with African-American families at a parade....

He jumped off the Mitt Mobile to greet a waiting crowd, took a picture with some kids and young adults and awkwardly quipped, ”Who let the dogs out? Who who.”

He took pictures with many in the crowd and greeted one baby wearing a necklace saying, “Hey buddy! How’s it going? What’s happening? You got some bling bling here!”

Romney even received some hugs, but some Obama supporters held up signs and one woman yelled, “Mitt Romney go home. You are holding up the parade!” Once the parade did start Romney hopped back on the Mitt Mobile and headed to his next stop.

video here: http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/21/romney-who-let-the-dogs-out/

is it too much to hope that b.g. beats mitt romney to death for that

started to watch video, had to shut it off before wincing could start

awkwardly quipped, ”Who let the dogs out? Who who.”

seriously wtf so hard to know who to hate more, him or giuliani.

THIS GUY!

the scariest thing is that the kids seem to like him... i can imagine romney getting 10-20% of the black vote against hillary if the racist-clinton stuff sticks

Are you gonna post that on your 'evidence to stop Romney from getting elected' thread?

I don't think the guy stands a fucking chance, personally.

kids like romney?

or are they just scared of hilary?

i still want him to get the nom because i think hes more beatable than mccain and because dude would provide nonstop lolz but i dont think its necessarily a slamdunk

lol, i love romney even more now

what are the odds theres a serious romney skeleton in the closet? unlike giuliani or really any other GOP dude i think even just a tiny bit of infidelity or ugly personal stuff will sink mitt's whole appeal

a few people have speculated that the unnamed-candidate-scandal story concerns him, but it would seem like what-if-ism

i know its 99% improbable but i still hold on to my initial feeling that hes got a big child porn collection or something

he smoked once. in high school.

what are the odds theres a serious romney skeleton in the closet? unlike giuliani or really any other GOP dude i think even just a tiny bit of infidelity or ugly personal stuff will sink mitt's whole appeal

0.01%

he once smelled coffee

my guess is he's easier to beat because he's less known, a mormon, an obviously shameless panderer, awkward at times, kind of a weirdo, and maybe there are more than a few republicans who like ethan just don't like a dude in a starched shirt and tie. i'm probably wrong, but i flirt with fearing him less than others in office because of what i take as his empirical orientation. i'm not gonna say that he's a fake republican or anything other than a consultant justifying whatever ends the party establishment prefers, but i do have a sense he may really believe in research, tho i suppose his tendency to make fine rhetorical distinctions should remind me less of an academic and more of the current truthiness regime.

he once lived in France. really.

Massachusetts too i hear

Giuliani: "Florida counts, and I'm counting on Florida. Both ways."

"i'm probably wrong, but i flirt with fearing him less than others in office because of what i take as his empirical orientation. i'm not gonna say that he's a fake republican or anything other than a consultant justifying whatever ends the party establishment prefers, but i do have a sense he may really believe in research, tho i suppose his tendency to make fine rhetorical distinctions should remind me less of an academic and more of the current truthiness regime."

what are you talking about?

romney perfectly fits the 80s movie frat/jock archetype

staying on message - http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/01/poll_shows_rudy.html

romney's a nerd, dude

i'm starting to wonder if the real umderstory of the GOP race is the fight between sides of the bush family, with pere and Jeb for Romney, while the W regime is backing mccain

i still want him to get the nom because i think hes more beatable than mccain and because dude would provide nonstop lolz but i dont think its necessarily a slamdunk

Me too. I will miss the lulz Mitt brings to the campaign if he ends up not being the nominee.

romney's a nerd, dude

-- gabbneb, Monday, January 21, 2008 9:15 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

sorry, bro, hes a prep

which would be funnier - Obama-Romney or Biden-Giuliani?

xp - lol, suburbs

Romney would greet Obama at the debate with a rousing "Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?"

if romney is doing "who let the dogs out" this year, then i guess we'll have to wait till 2016 for some candidate to make a lame reference to "crank dat {soulja boy)."

'senator mccain, let me ask you - how do we superman the hoe?'

I still love this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zCQZNMCbES0

wes clark is still a good bet for sec of defense under president hillary right?

Yes, or VP.

Full disclosure, my support of Senator Clinton is largely due to the likelihood of Wes Clark’s presence in her administration.