'suddenly'
don't really care about international success all that muchactually rather like things the way they are
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
When I heard this my first reaction was to recall that slogan from the Czechs as the tanks marched into Prague: 'Wake up Lenin they've all gone mad'. Associaton/memory blah.
Hilarious if arry was convincted, but actually that trial shd help, imagine the mud that would've been slung at him as the Euros approached. He effectively passed his interview during the trial.
Rafa is a better choice.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
for what?
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
We know how this ends anyway: Redknapp leads England to semi-final defeat to German on penalties -> WC qualifying starts well -> Mail on Sunday expose on massive raft of previously unknown Redknapp bungs -> Redknapp sacked -> England fail to qualify for 2014 World Cup under new manager Roy Hodgson after conceding a heartbreaking late equaliser against Greece.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
... scored by Georgios Samaras
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
don't really care about international success all that much
i cd care less really and yet
there's something so maddening about the endless misadministration and underachieving celebs and baying jingoism that part of me wd just like to see people of good will create a national football ethos to be proud of, just once.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't we had 10 years of 'why the shit don't we just let Trevor Brooking have free reign? we keep thinking everything he says sounds sensible and achievable and always do the complete fucking opposite in an incompetent manner.'
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
eh, must be the money
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
is there money in being incompetent fools? i bet england shirt sales have drooped like crazy post-sven, for example.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
England Memorabilia is so over:
1) The £1 shops are full of 2010 World Cup souvenir flags, t-shirts, etc
2) Who would buy a full-price 2014 world cup one, when they have seen all that?
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
surely it is pardew's time? is he can do okay at newcastlol then pretty sure england can absolutely rake everybody under him
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
I think we can all agree that Pardew would be a huge fucking disaster, right?
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
Why don't they get Ricky Tomlinson? At least we'd all 'ave a laff'...
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Havin' laffs was actually forwarded by Neil Warnock as a priamry reason for the FA to give the job to Redknapp - that and his ability to speak, if not quite write, English
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Pardew is the new Steve Bruce, he's a limited manager benefiting from an excellent talent scout.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys pardew was joeks it's almost friday!
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Chu for England
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost Good Friday
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Never mind the new Steve Bruce, England need the old Steve Bruce.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
In 1988?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
there's something so maddening about the endless misadministration and underachieving celebs and baying jingoism that part of me wd just like to see people of good will create a national football ethos to be proud of, just once. i do, i really do.
Fixed.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
not really, i wasn't talking about success there and i guess my chagrin is more related to that feeling you get when you've got a knotted string and you feel compelled to untie it - abstract mental tidiness of some sort.
on a strictly pleasurable level the hapless travails of the national side wd take a lot of beating.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
or perhaps i'm thinking that a national side i'd want to support wd have to change in many ways, and "success" is the least of those ways
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously I used to hate England - but as things are, for a sheer entertainment roller-coaster ride they cannot be beaten. Well maybe by France, there's a national side with everything. Argentina too, that's your triumvirate.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously I used to hate England - but as things are, for a sheer entertainment roller-coaster ride they cannot be beaten
can i get this on a tshirt pls
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
* off-pitch only
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, even that's unfair - up there among last night's oh so many lols was Rob Green's howler on a loop on the BBC rolling news.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
love watching England
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes gruelling
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
motherfucker is that a famine reference
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
hear that NN he made a famine reference this is incredible
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
chips on your shoulder?
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
goddamit and the mods all busy too
love watching english people who love football convince themselves they don't care about england or hate england, when i have the sinking suspicion their eyes would well with big, st george cross shaped tears if arry won the world cup.
― mizzell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
They are one of the most boring teams, football wise, in world football
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
ah yeah
i mean, i sometimes read the real-time updates from the thread during the germany game in the WC
suuuure you guys don't care
suuuuure
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Hardly ever play any football worth watching. They're like a good version of Norway.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
love watching english people who love football convince themselves they don't care about england or hate england
if you say so
but seriously, i love football more than is healthy and my relationship with the england team is only ever gonna be as complicated as my relationship to the english nation. well, maybe fractionally less complicated.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
the english football team changes personnel every 4-7 years tbf
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
i mean clearly i spend time thinking about "the england football team" but i'm pretty fucking certain i'm not just hanging on for an excuse to paint a red cross on my face and punch the nearest german
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
and, once again, i love my club...the national team is this weird tragi-comic distraction mainly worshiped by southerners afaict
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol at NV in role of prime apologist
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but they don't change much
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
when, if ever, did you stop caring about the English football team?
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
I've never stopped caring, I love watching them lose tbh
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
:D
i think about this shit quite a lot when tournaments roll round - in some sense, from childhood, england is "my" team, but def not my team in the way Wolves is. and the social history and politics of England is fascinating i think. but i am certain there isn't some diehard nationalist lurking away in the middle of me underneath onion-skins of liberal guilt or whatever
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
England are fun, apart from to watch obv, and I almost always enjoy their exit from a tournament. Although against that I loved loved loved the last Euros and coincidentally England weren't even there. The only enjoyable aspect of England one day winning the World Cup would purely to be to see what the country would be like the next day after everyone (well the 35% of people who vaguely give a shit about football) loses their collective minds.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Bit like me and the Scotland rugby team, fuck 'em for the most part (unless they're playing England) (xp)
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait til Ireland meet England in the Euros. Then we'll see the true face of ILF
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
posts, flags
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link