The FAA is also required under the bill to provide military, commercial and privately-owned drones with expanded access to U.S. airspace currently reserved for manned aircraft by Sept. 30, 2015. That means permitting unmanned drones controlled by remote operators on the ground to fly in the same airspace as airliners, cargo planes, business jets and private aircraft.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-congress-oks-faa-bill-allowing-drones-in-us-gps-air-traffic-control-20120207,0,3563340.story
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
I want my own drone
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
PRIVATELY-OWNED DRONES
argh
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Lots of issues involved in this bill
The labor provision, which was opposed by the Democratic-controlled Senate, became the principal issue holding up the bill. A compromise reached two weeks ago by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, allows the mediation board's rules to stand, but it also toughens some lesser requirements that must be met in order to hold a union organizing election.
While the compromise was acceptable to some unions, more than a dozen other unions that represent airline industry workers — including the Teamsters, Communications Workers, Machinists and Flight Attendants — complained the deal was reached without their input and urged its rejection.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Well you can presently fly remote-controlled model airplanes, this just becomes an issue of air traffic.
Also, prownes?
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
superfluous hyphen
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
unmanned cargo aircraft isn't such a bad idea
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/07/karen-handel-resigns-from-komen-for-the-cure/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently 'they' have been saying that for ages. The pilots of commercial carriers are basically just hostages.
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
I totally want a drone. I could put a slim jim and some little debbies in it and fly it to DJP in Boston and be all here are your intergalactic snacks in a robot voice.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
good morning!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
if drones are allowed over the US, just a matter of time before one is hacked by anonymous and crashes
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
preferably when [redacted]
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
DIY drones
― Z S, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
I don't have a problem with private drones anymore than I do with private aircraft
govt drones are more sinister if you ask me.
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
the pilot of a private aircraft is much more likely to be responsible about its use if he or she is inside it imo
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, that's why I referred to them as hostages
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
eh bring on the robots
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
given that it'll likely be very easy to make a DIY drone in yr garage v soon, I'd rather they be allowed and regulated (as air traffic is today) and made useful, and not outlawed. Or worse, allowed to be used by only rhe govt and a v narrow slice of the private sector. I really don't understand how drones would be bad aside from cluttering the airways
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
some dubious syntax there but I think u get me
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
that Monsanto dude appt. is a fucking embarrassment btw not like there's anything anybody can do about it but seriously
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
I have problems with, say, Donald Trump owning a drone.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
private security drone armies
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
I would prob start watching the apprentice tbh
― iatee, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
why? srs q. Xp
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
I would assume that ARMED drones would be illegal
bear in mind my def of "drone" is "robot that flys"
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
what if drones started falling from the sky
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
oh no
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
don't really want to find out what, say, the Oakland Police Department would do with armed drones fwiw
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
basically this comes down to me having real, serious problems with the militarization of law enforcement in this country - police departments are armed and trained as if they are serving in warzones, it's fucked up.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
this drone thing reminds me of recent things like this and this
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, it's worse than you think, Shakey: Now college campus police departments are getting SWAT teams. A solution in search of a problem.
http://nineronline.com/2011/unc-charlotte-swat-team-%E2%80%93-an-asset-we-hope-to-never-use/
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
I would totally build a drone that throws rocks at the police drones.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
dude I feel u 1000% which is why govt drone usage is creepier than Donald trump
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I'm not making this assumption. private security firms carry weapons.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but private security firms don't have gunships.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
or at least those that operate domestically.
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
I should change that to private security firms operating within the borders of the USA. Because, you know, xe or whatever they are now.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
oops. yup.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.gamergirlsunite.com/reviews/pcreviews/finalfantasyXI/FFXI_ship.jpg
― Mordy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
I assumed for this whole discussion "drone" meant a plane w/ missiles on it. Why else would you have one?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
snacks
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
Why else would you have one?
surveillance. helping nancy grace catch child murderers? I dunno.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
Nancy Grace's drones would zip around the country, slut-shaming left and right
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
I got a drone RIGHT HERE for you guys.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
traffic, news, weather, science, injuring smaller numbers of people at air shows...
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
I was hoping u were going for "Fugue for Tinhorns" xp
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
In other news:
A federal appeals panel in San Francisco ruled Tuesday that California’s ban on same-sex marriage violates the constitutional right to equal protection. The panel overturned Proposition 8, which was approved by 52 percent of the state’s voters in 2008 and amended the state’s constitution to limit marriage to a man and a woman.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/calif-same-sex-marriage-ban-ruled-unconstitutional/2012/02/07/gIQAMNwkwQ_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Obama is not yet using drones in his war on Catholic hospitals(below is the right-wing spin) but he might:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-poor-pay-the-price-for-obamas-political-calculation/2012/02/06/gIQAU7W5uQ_story.html?hpid=z7
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/komen-catholics-and-the-cost-of-conscience/2012/02/03/gIQAqSGYnQ_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Pasrkker is such a hack. I'd rather get rick-rolled.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link