2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

i love America

those Rothschilds are real salt of the earth eh

would've been better if she'd called him uppity, since that's probably what she really meant.

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http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/09/17/art.clintonbacker.gi.jpg

"I feel like he's an elitist."

"pearl necklace"

Back in 1993 H. Ross gave a speech on campus the same night the as-yet-unsigned-to-Warners Green Day were supposed to play a show. The police were out in force, the show never happened and some Sony A&R guy was maced. Logically.

to be fair, just because you're really rich or even elitist doesn't mean you want your president to be elitist.

still not really sure what would make obama any more "elitist" than mccain

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/fiorinas-comment-called-biden-like/ --

Asked about that remark on MSNBC, she made the same unprompted assessment of the GOP presidential nominee. "I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation."

To be fair, neither could she.

Nate Silver on why Obama's campaign should reach out to the "Perot voter":

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/08/26/one-person-focus-group-the-ross-perot-voter.aspx

Nate Silver could try talking to my mom for his Perot voter needs.

LFdR pic: "Thanks to Dr Sebagh, I feel ten years younger - and nothing whatsoever on my forehead!"

Obama's new 2-minute commercial on the economy sounds like a step in the right direction

who is this for though? the undecided low-info voter who is gonna sit still for two minutes and really pay attention to a political ad?

not saying it's all bad, I'm sure it will generate news coverage. but they should make some 30-second spots that will actually air. maybe they're already doing that.

That's why I said it's a step in the right direction. Perhaps a 2-minute commercial might catch some people's attention, and convey an impression of substance. But on the other hand, it's somewhat indicative of Obama's struggle to condense his economic message to a few punchy sound-bites. I remain hopeful that he'll boil his message down to something effective that can be conveyed in 30 seconds.

I think he needs something that will get through to people like my grandfather (usually pretty conservative in his politics). He was watching the unfolding financial armageddon on Fox Business News last night. His comments were: Why aren't they sending the people responsible for this to jail? And: "Barack Obama and that other guy sound like a couple of little kids calling each other names." He said "that other guy" with a hint of contempt, so there's hope yet, I guess. But clearly he wants to hear something other than blaming the other party.

well there's a lot of "something other than" in Obama's speeches but the coverage focuses on zings and blame. agree that O's economic prescriptions at this point need to be boiled down into one or two simple ideas

luckily McCain has no ideas and the vague ones he does have are completely at odds with his own record and the careers of all his top econ advisers

one Perotism should be avoided by Bam: that balanced budget horseshit.

you're gonna want to stop nationalising companies if none of your presidential candidates are fit to run a big corporation

in other news, obama captured the valuable noise voting bloc with today's endorsement from lightning bolt

http://www.noiseforobama.org/

haha

xD

all of those "suggestions" to obama about what he should be doing appear to be things he is actually doing. so I don't know what they're talk about

also, fuck that rich bitch

seriously. would stab.

Biden with the zingers

I got also a bridge I got to sell you and guess what? It's in Alaska, and it goes to nowhere."

This sort of reads like an excerpt from that George Saunders piece about Palin.

if McCain was smart they'd have Palin going after Biden's MBNA whoredom.

Fortunately, McCain is not smart.

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wo0i6gjglukrrl2a8zdiza.gif

Back, I say!

Yes!

http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-emails

http://www.deviantart.com/download/75512801/Custom_Ghost_Rider_Super_Hero_by_Shin_Goji.jpg

a bunch of /b/tards spent weeks working on a fake e-mail account to make it look like it belonged to somebody else? you don't say

http://pastebin.com/f652c44fb

"tl;dr"

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- A poster on /b/ did a lookup on the cellphone number which returned this information:
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Type: Cell Phone
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Provider: Dobson Cellular Systems
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Location: Palmer, AK
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hackers are lame

haha my manager sent me that link

haha! haha

ha
ha

a bunch of /b/tards spent weeks working on a fake e-mail account to make it look like it belonged to somebody else? you don't say

it could be a fake (i mean, she seems to have made plenty of enemies in alaska) but whoever's faking it isn't a /b/tard, unless they've been obsessing over chicky for a whole helluva lot longer than she's been a national figure. the account dates back a long while...

whatever, the tragedy is that it's the world's most boring e-mail.

also that ppl are ringing up bristol palin's cellphone, which is just assholery.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-600.jpg

haha
i never noticed the anon mask in the background

who is winning teh game

McCrazy still 58% likely winner?

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/morning-musings.html

Democrats are like Cubs fans -- they assume that something will go wrong until proven otherwise.

no one else is showing numbers like that, morbius.

but it's Nate Silver!

boy, West Va. is solidly red? Those Dems and their grassroots, I tell ya...

(also, the "win pct" on that site is not the popular vote projection. I think it's the likelihood of who wins? today?)

Correct.

Silver hasn't updated his numbers since yesterday, tho.

538's model is still weighted in favor of polling numbers which rely on information about voters who were already registered for 2006, 2004, etc. Gallup is the only polling organization I know of that calls cell phones.
This is also the first time Silver's done politics AFAIK.

Meaning there should be a "beta" somewhere in his site logo

they are pretty conservative about moving their numbers around so I'd say their projection is still deep in GOP-convention-bounce land

the ground that Obama seems to have gained back as reflected in the daily tracker won't show up on their site until there are some more recent state polls

right, it seems like it's a couple days behind everyone else's projections. but everyone is always wrong anyway.

Yeah, the election is going to be close, but whatever anguish you're feeling about current polling is best used as a motivator to go out and volunteer, donate, etc.