OAKLAND

Spencer, did you know that Fenton's burned down? My XGF lives right by there and we heard the sirens one night and the cops were there taking the manager and 2 workers away in cuffs in the parking lot while the place erupted in flames despite several firetrucks on the scene (must have been gasoline).

The employees had a rental truck filled with the safe and the jukebox (?).

It reopened after a year but I never went back.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

wow! I had no idea. when did this happen???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

mmmm... summer 2002-ish.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, just looked it up. November of '01 and reopened in '03

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, so much for my memory.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.theprimalscream.com/images/star-cover.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I will be at Oakland airport Sunday morning for two hours close to 10am. Anyone wanna come over and have breakfast with me?

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

@d@m will be bringing MARMALADE!...(in case you missed that from the LA FAP thread)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

(Sunday May 14th that is)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

It's tempting, but the traffic can be awful on Sunday mornings. That would probably be one of the most bizarre FAPs ever, though. Which appeals to my perverse side (i.e. all of me). Won't you be "airside" (see? I know) for the majority of your layover?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay I just scanned the LA FAP thread and I'm still totally mystified by the marmalade thing. But don't explain...mystery is good.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, I have no idea. I've just been jesting. Don't get me wrong.. I would love to meet up with you, however brief, if possible. But I think I'll be too busy running around a new airport figuring out where to exit and re-enter security, new flight, etc. making sure I get a window seat, etc. (since Southwest does this first-come-first-serve thing when it comes to seat assignment) to have time for any sort of Oakland airport FAP sadly. :( In any case, I wouldn't expect anyone in the bay area to go out of their way or care about lil' ol me...

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I might be able to squeeze in a flight to SF sometime in the next month and a half, though.. who knows.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

But forget I said that.. back to OAKLAND!

WOOO WOOOOO!

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The best train-side graffiti I've ever seen in my life was in Oakland, just north and just south of Jack London... it is spectacular.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The best train-side graffiti I've ever seen in my life was in Oakland, just north and just south of Jack London... it is spectacular.

Oh, I'll second this!

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the oakland airport is tiny. you can run the length of the whole thing in ten minutes, probably. I love that airport! when I didn't travel very often, going to SFO was fun and exciting and exotic, but now it's just a headache.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

SFO is a stylish airport, but it is a bastard to find your way around.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not as confusing as de Gaulle or something though.

It also has shitty food in the international terminal. They could do better.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.house.gov/lee/images/photo006.jpg

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://dbacon.igc.org/PJust/PJustBig/affact19.jpg

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.business2oakland.com/main/images/interior_images/jerry_brown.jpg

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5113.jpg

― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5114.jpg
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5115.jpg

― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadly, @d@m, even our proposed M@rm@l@de Oaktown airport breakfast FAP won't happen since I won't be leaving the gate/ticket holder area. :( I'll probably be lying on the floor in line somewhere at some gate hoping to get a good seat for my flight back to Seattle. Think of me, and M@Rm@l@dE around 10am on Sunday.... please?

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(once again, the g-man with the great pics... :) )

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

going to see rod dibble tonight!

― ron (ron), Saturday, 15 May 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

hey adam et al, I'm sending a radio station contest winner to lollapalooza at shoreline, can I pick your brain?

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 17 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Teeny, I missed this last post - do you still need help with anything?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to Yoshi's for my birthday, wanted to add it to this thread:

http://www.morimotoarch.com/images/portfolio/yoshisEntry.jpg

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only was it great cos we got to take off our shoes and stuff, but the California Roll was delicious and the Amtrak goes right past the window, which I LOVED.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

eh probably not, looks like I don't get to book the trip after all, the corporate office wants to handle it. Thanks though!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

SHORELINE IS IN MOUNTAIN VIEW!!!

(just kidding, just felt like making a scene)

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Oakland loves freight and transport.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~mortimer/blimp/

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

oooh.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

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This situation with Eli's sounds like a clusterfuck.

"“You remember Ghost Ship? This is Ghost Ship again"

https://sfstandard.com/2025/05/07/elis-mile-high-club-patio-illegal-claims

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:06 (one year ago)

lol at that guy:

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/burningman/article/Burning-Man-Alameda-building-equipment-fines-13851981.php

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:15 (one year ago)

I've heard about Eli's patrons throwing garbage over the fence, but I haven't been there in quite awhile.. seems like it's barely open these days

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 23:21 (one year ago)

i haven't been there since the 90's

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 8 May 2025 14:53 (one year ago)

Loved that bar, will always love that bar. The day after Ghost Ship, that was where everyone went to gather and mourn together. A lot of good memories there.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:04 (one year ago)

I spent many hours going through the building records and permit history for Eli’s … the City is doing it’s customary thing where they find a legal violation and then add bullshit violations that end up distracting the operator/owner/tenants from dealing with the real problem.

― sarahell, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:13 (one year ago)

The noteworthy thing is that the Oakland Fire Department has not cited it … so it is far from Ghost Ship …

― sarahell, Thursday, 8 May 2025 18:14 (one year ago)

Late checkin but if anyone is going to see Slowdive at the Fox tonight, maybe I'll seeya there!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2025 01:36 (one year ago)

one month passes...

someone come save me, it's a mad-max style hellscape

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14817899/Oakland-California-street-car-sideshows-fire-cops.html

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 00:26 (one year ago)

I think Oakland still hasn't learned the lesson that SF finally (I think, maybe?) has learned. What good is Barbara Lee going to do for it? I liked her in congress, but Oakland is falling apart, and at this point I think she's just another self-serving national politician not really interested in fixing its problems.

I don't know, maybe Oakland should have elected Loren Taylor as mayor instead? We'll see. The city needs some tempering and moderation, that's for sure

― Dan S, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 01:17 (one year ago)

I don't really think either of them can fix the city's budget problems.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 11:29 (one year ago)

Dan - one of my best friends and I agreed that Barbara would likely be the same kind of mayor as Dellums was … we lived here for Dellums. He voted for Barbara based on feeling the alternatives were worse

― sarahell, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 20:57 (one year ago)

ranked choice brought us Sheng Thao

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 21:03 (one year ago)

Were you a Loren Taylor voter?

― sarahell, Wednesday, 18 June 2025 01:58 (one year ago)

I honestly don't understand why people like ranked choice voting.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 18 June 2025 15:19 (one year ago)

I did vote for Loren Taylor.. twice

I like Barbara Lee but as I said upthread, I'm worried she views this as an emeritus landing pad (like Dellums)... but we shall see, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 June 2025 16:33 (one year ago)

six months pass...

Saturday looks better for me, but I'll probably sneak in both days

https://mosswoodmeltdown.com/lineup/

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 January 2026 22:32 (five months ago)

Will be there Friday, but hoping and praying that the Dirtbombs play a standalone show.

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 16 January 2026 19:03 (five months ago)

They'd be perfect for Thee Stork Club, that's for sure.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 January 2026 19:17 (five months ago)

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