i'm not a huge star wars fan but there are some basic competencies of staging, shooting, editing even in that rough cut clip that seem to have almost disappeared by the time of the prequels. what the fuck happened to george lucas?
btw that recent NYT profile re. red tails made me angry b/c lucas was saying stuff like "we're going to make a big dumb naive WWII movie just like they used to." and he referred to flying leathernecks which will not perfect is by no means dumb and naive. lucas really doesn't have a very sophisticated or even accurate understanding of film history -- something i'd credit even spielberg with. lucas obviously had some kind of genius at some point but it's really obvious that for whatever reasons it's just flushed away now. i'm sure whatever 'experimental' films he plans on making now won't be any better than those godawful films coppola has been making lately.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
I still have WC3 on cd, I think. Came on 4 discs, and I got the bonus edition that came in a film can from some guy on rec.arts.tv.mst3k.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UBsN0.jpg
― ledge, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
a huge image for a huge crime
― ledge, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/internet-memes-disappointed-yoda.gif
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
there's another one of those Vodafone posters near my house and i swear it makes zero sense; i mean even less than that one. literally no connection whatsoever to Star Wars / Yoda at all.
― piscesx, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
That's why it's so zany! Star Wars characters being zany!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yoda rhymes with Voda GEDDIT
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-9EYFJ4Clo
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ntDYjS0Y3w
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69ftWNg97U
i've never seen so many 'dislikes' over 'likes' on a TV or film clip ever before.
From the Graun:
"LucasFilm are now promoting the rerelease with what it describes as a "kids featurette" (for which read: patronising trailer for those under the age of 10). If any sign were needed of the extent to which Lucas et al have come to resemble an eternally cash-hungry giant sarlacc in a barren desert of creativity, it is here. Hosted in the style of a McDonald's Happy Meal advert by an exuberant voiceover man who sounds like a harried parent trying to persuade a recalcitrant sprog to eat their dinner, it appears to have emanated from somewhere in the seventh layer of Hades.. "
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
read that as "an eternally cash-hungry giant garlic"
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
maybe that's the "art film" george lucas keeps promising to make?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
That trailer is fucking excruciating.
― nate woolls, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
That HAS to be bad on purpose.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
from the YT comments: "George Lucas confirmed for master troll". The ongoing treatment of Star Wars IS like some kind of grand wheeze, perpetrated entirely and wilfully at the expense of anyone who liked it originally.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
Well, Star Wars basically was a giant exercise in trolling from day one. I mean "Wookies"? "Han Solo"?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, we wouldn't have any of this trouble if the long ago space pirates were all called Steve.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
xp
Perhaps, but none of the original trilogy ever felt truly cynical and *shit* like this does, at least it doesn't to me. Yes, the names are all daft but there aren't any characters as poisonous as Binks or the trade federation bosses or Watoo. The biggest piece of "for kids" pandering was the Ewoks and even they are preferable to those army droid fucks.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yes but remember if Lucas had his way in the 70's C3PO would have been like a used car salesman. We were just lucky he didn't have 100% control at the time.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
The Ewoks are light years better than anything in the new trilogy.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
but Lucas has always had full control of the merchandising did he not?
― Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
I can picture an alternate world where we grew up with this cool C3PO who was like the metal version of Rudy Russo, and someone going "Ew, Lucas originally wanted him to be this poncey A/R butler type dude."
― pplains, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Irwin Kershner mentioned that they changed C3PO's style for Empire b/c they needed comic relief somewhere and he was the only option left.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
He was pretty much comic relief in Star Wars though?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Different vibe in SW. He talked his way thru situations and was a bit craftier in his few scenes
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
Yoda's pretty funny in Empire.
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
I like star wars better in black and white
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
Yes but remember if Lucas had his way in the 70's C3PO would have been like a used car salesman. We were just lucky he didn't have 100% control at the time.― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not so much a question of "control" but who lucas was surrounded with and how willing he was to take their advice.
i get the sense that these days he is surrounded by yes-men who question his judgement only at professional cost. that is evident even in the bonus materials on some of the star wars DVDs.
back in the '70s he wasn't "george lucas (tm)" and this had real effects both in terms of his own willingness to collaborate and other folks' willingness to question his bad ideas.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
Jedi bait:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/6039
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
what is funny is that because I am not completely familiar with their ratings, I couldn't tell if they gave it 0/4 stars or 4/some indeterminate number because nothing was shaded
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. I believe the site was hacked during the day too, lolskywalker
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
guys lets pray that tpm3d fuckin TANKS
i mean i know it wont
but... wouldnt it be nice
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
While we are opposed to the Star Wars films and their mysticism, George Lucas's tendency towards replacement of the live-action elements in his re-releases is a step in the right direction of a new cinema. Hopefully in the next re-release he will replace all of the human actors with CGI creations.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
^
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link
not a banaka fan but loved that
― RejoicingShepherd (stevie), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
Hayden Christensen weeps (perhaps w/ gratitude)
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
I will be there this weekend, btw. I came home last night and my son gave me a very honest plea to see it.
One time I accidentally bad-mouthed Jar Jar Binks in front of him and he looked at me very confused and hurt and said "You don't like Jar Jar?"
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Feel ashamed to say this, but I'll be taking my son to this over the weekend, and I'm the one who's excited about it.
I also saw TPM several times in the theater when it originally came out. I may have a problem....
― Moodles, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I'm there for you, Moodles. I saw it at midnight when it opened and several times after that.
(I'm white, btw)
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
ROTS I didn't see until someone uploaded it to YouTube in 10 parts, which probably wasn't the way to watch that one.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
have you guys seen this? it's not good, but might have some extra chuckles for you.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/fanboys/4000
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
I actually saw ROTS at the charity premiere in Washington, DC, my wife having surprised me with $250 per person tickets. I sat directly in front of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher.
xp "Not good" is very, very charitable for something that wastes the talents of everyone involved.
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
you are all the problem.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
well Fanboys did have one great Harrison Ford joke
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
Have always been disappointed that the Phantom Menace contained no actual phantoms.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://screamsheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/gerard-butler.jpg
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://dawnsdvds.com/h/phan.gif
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
Looks about as good as the Phantom Menace, for what it's worth. Ben Affleck as Obi-Wan, Peter O'Toole as Qui-Gon...
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link