2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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political donations disappear as soon as they are made. there is no "ROI" unless your guy wins, which perry isn't going to do. his donors are going to demand he keep going to burn more of their money? why?

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I don't get that

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

If nothing else, Perry's 'wealthy Texas backers' will just keep getting paid off in-state.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

This meeting with them is probably to arrange that in-state payback and to abase himself for running such a damn fool campaign he made Phil Gramm look competant by comparison.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

mitt romney's phone game, interesting stuff

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/victory_lab/2012/01/romney_s_iowa_win_it_took_a_lot_more_than_money_.single.html

But what was more important for Romney’s team was not just that his total share of the vote remained steady but that the individual voters who comprised it didn’t move either, making it easy to keep track of who they were and to mobilize them personally.

It was the ability to pinpoint and track supporters that settled Romney’s decision to publicly commit to winning Iowa late this fall. Romney’s campaign made a big show of converting the former video store into a headquarters, while spending millions on local television ads and dispatching the candidate to travel the state more aggressively than he had. But a ruthless yet largely invisible strategy had already been in place for much of the year, tracking both Romney’s supporters and his opponents. Only when Romney’s count appeared to exceed any rival’s did advisers unveil the trappings of a traditional caucus campaign.

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

iirc, unspent campaign contributions accrue to the donee, who then has wide latitude on how they are spent, even if he can't blatantly shove it in his own pocket. If Perry has a big unspent war chest and it was full of hundreds of thousands of my dollars, I would demand to retain an interest in that cash. Perry isn't the sort of pol who'd say fu to that either. He knows he's just a puny man propped up by these rich guys.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

well i doubt perry is flush atm, and as to what perry could do right now to carry out a donor's interest in that money, my point stands. i really don't get where you're going with this. perry wants to quit but his donors are begging he keep going, for the money?

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

And speaking of Perry:

Perry spoke to reporters in Des Moines, Iowa, on Wednesday following his disappointing fifth-place showing in the Iowa caucus...Perry clearly wants to put his Iowa experience behind him. He called Iowa a "quirky place" with "a quirky process."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

I kinda wish more candidates that flop would just flat out shit talk the place for the LOLs.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

And from the Mormon who did stay out of Iowa about Romney's endorsements:

“It seems the more establishment piles on, Dole, McCain, all the rest, nobody cares. Nobody cares about this."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

[quote]Texas Gov. Rick Perry says he is leaving the ''quirky'' state of Iowa to continue his presidential race among ''real'' Republicans in South Carolina.[/quote]

("real" = "not those freakin' Yankees")

pplains, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

man if he is casting iowa as yankeeland it just shows how bad he is at politics

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

Perry's donors may not understand the depths of his inability to win. I mean, they sank a lot of money into him because they believed quite the opposite. If they think that his campaign is salvageable, say, by a radical replacement of his staff and shift of strategy, then they might be very pissed off if he fails to make a last ditch effort to turn it around.

These are Texans -- people who are used to celebrating football players who stay on the field with broken ribs and make the tackle that saves the touchdown and the game. It may not make sense in a practical context, but this is Texas... you win or you come back on your shield.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/T1AiN.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

RELATED: Jon Huntsman Says Iowans ‘Pick Corn,’ Not Presidents

too honest to be president

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

who was president sterling?

― goole, Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:18 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

prez of stanford, in whose office the hippies were "sitting in" to protest vietnam

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Up in New Hampshire:

Wandering around the event, Romney supporters were surprisingly difficult to find in the crowd, even among those sporting campaign stickers and signs. Outside the event, a small group of backers politely argued with a group of unidentified protestors dressed in animal costumes, including a dolphin mocking Romney’s “flip flops.”

“We loved him as governor,” Amanda Stradling, who moved to the state from Massachusetts, told TPM, holding a nine-month old baby wearing a Romney sticker.

But for every Romney, there seemed to be plenty of undecideds, independents, and even Democrats. One group of three friends, two of whom said they plan on voting for Obama, came up from New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut as “political tourists” just to check out the candidates.

“It’s just too early to decide,” one twenty-something in a Boston Red Sox hat said.

Simona Amiet, a homemaker who immigrated from Switzerland 20 years earlier, said she was leaning Romney because he was “knowledgeable with enterprise,” but had yet to decide. A Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008, she said she knew she wouldn’t be voting Democrat again in the general election, upset with both deficits and how he treated her favorite candidate four years ago.

Al Plass, 57, said as an independent he was still not sold on Romney, and that he was beginning to even warm up to Rick Santorum. But he was still holding out hope that his dream candidate would run: Donald Trump.

“He has way more business experience than Romney,” he said. “He’s straightforward, he’s a patriot, he loves this country.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

Outside the event, a small group of backers politely argued with a group of unidentified protestors dressed in animal costumes, including a dolphin mocking Romney’s “flip flops.”

I can't even

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

in what way is Trump a patriot

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

did he kill a muslim I don't know about

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Simona Amiet, a homemaker who immigrated from Switzerland 20 years earlier, said she was leaning Romney because he was “knowledgeable with enterprise,” but had yet to decide. A Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008, she said she knew she wouldn’t be voting Democrat again in the general election, upset with both deficits and how he treated her favorite candidate four years ago.

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BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

sounds like newt's her candidate then

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

“knowledgeable with enterprise"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWIEyZFwZ8k

buzza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

An Iowa caucus is basically like a livestock auction crossed with a general assembly, right?

Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

and a New Hampshire primary is basically a Rotary Club crossed with a toadstool.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

link courtesy nro/the corner but i put here so more people would see

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/my-night-at-michele-bachmanns-headquarters

no longer the deli llama (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

I overheard someone say: "We have a lot of courts trying to institute Sharia Law. They stoned a woman in Toronto and didn't do anything about it."

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

show me this Corner post!

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

I was watching last night when all this nonsense transpired, and, yes, I found it very funny ("We know--a lot of people Tweet in America!")

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/01/the-iowa-spectacle.html

Number one rule in Toronto: everybody must get stoned.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

x post

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/287016/visit-bachmann-hq-robert-costa#comments

what's also funny is the other thread he links to - the santorum scrapbook - takes the piss out of rick

no longer the deli llama (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

where does he want to put the end of nuclear war?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

iLegal same sex marriage

nah (crüt), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Legalize the Death Penalty

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

the corner:

Katharine Hepburn said that Ginger Rogers gave Fred Astaire sex appeal. Iowa has restored the glow to Rick Santorum.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

Put more money in the "investment of education" of our children so they learn to spell illegal.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

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buzza, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

orange city!! haha no shit

goole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

new Corner thread:

NRO's The Corner 2: Ghost Protocol

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

From the Bachmann article:

She spoke for about a minute and then they played "Hey Soul Sister" 3 times in a row.

This is literally my idea of what hell would be like.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Correct top three. Wrong order, but the 25 Romney voters came damn close.

Aimless, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for Santorum. Force of habit from all the NRO polls where I vote for what I want to happen (within reason, else I would have voted for Gingrich).

clemenza, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

Me too.

Nicole, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

i voted paul because he is a living god

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for RuPaul, because I expected this was his best shot at muddying the waters and giving the Republican establishment a hissy fit. I never dared to think Santorum would actually win it; he's such a loser.

Aimless, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't honestly think he would win, I just liked the idea of him winning.

Nicole, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

120,000 - 30,000...I think there about 90,000 people in Iowa who, big-picture, would probably say the same thing.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link


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