refn doesn't hold 20 mins of bad plot together as well as mann, tbh
― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
well i "need" to see Drive i guess. somebody in the pub last night told me that somebody's trying to bring a hilarious law suit against the studio for failing to meet the trade description or something, is that right?
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
oh i've just found the link upthread
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
always thought Escape to Victory was most open to being sued on the misleading titles front
Ryan Gosling >>> Mickey Rourke
and not because Gosling is "cute."
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
rourke was cuter, back in the day
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
i have never and will never forgive Mann for Heat
haha, you can't forgive him for maybe his best film
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
btw the Steve McQueenish quote was from Armond, I figured most of you wd know
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
morbs: whiter than white
― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
Heat might be his best film but I don't think that says a lot about his work, also wd rather watch 5 minutes of Brian Cox than 3 hours of 90s de Niro
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Prefer The Insider.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i quite enjoyed that one
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
3 hrs of nothing tbh
― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
many xposts to Morbs:
Much better.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
Saw Drive, loved it. Then watched Bronson, hated it beyond measure
― Number None, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
grease me up
― Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
Have I seen Ron Perlman in anything else? The head on that guy. Great work.
Refn definitely might have bought the extra second-unit helicopter footage from Collateral for this.
― waylon flowers and muammar gaddafi (Eazy), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Perlman has been in a lot of stuff so I would say it is likely.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
hellboy for a start. subtler performance, slightly less grotesque characterisation.
― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
michael mann is definitely one of the sources of this film's style. "thief" is a pretty blatant intertext, between the faux-tangerine dream soundtrack, the font used for the film's title, etc. but i think there are lots of other sources, mostly dating to the mid 1980s. so i don't think it's fair to say that the whole style derives from michael mann.
i wonder if i'd like this movie a 2nd time around.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
"thief is a pretty hit and miss film, isn't it? the dialogue w/ tuesday weld in the freeway-overpass diner sticks out as being particularly poorly written, much like the "sift through the detritus" dialogue between diane venora (sp?) and pacino in "heat." "heat" is a pretty great film though. i'll suspend judgment on "thief" since i haven't seen it in a long time.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
"heat" is one of those films that for whatever reason i'd be happy to hate, and the film even gives me reasons to hate it, but i just can't. it's beautifully paced, it really breathes. it's a good 'un.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
Those rather explicit Thief aspects aside, I'm not sure this is all that Michael Mann-ish, at least in regards to how it treats its character. Mann seems to favour exploring masculinity and codes of honour, etc..., Drive is a lot more about Travis Bickle-like delusions of grandeur, self-mythology, and psychosis.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
and that's just from refn
― stop muammar time (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
michael mann would never have made a movie about a guy wearing a satin scorpion jacket
thief's not GREAT but it's pretty good, nicely shot (love the location shooting), big safecracking setpiece is great
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 22 October 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
This song kindof ruled during the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
― yuoowemeone, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
This song ruled more during the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg0jOpr1Uhk
― yuoowemeone, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
this was on a single screen here for one, maybe two weeks. the one night i actually made time to go see it with a friend, we got to the box office and were informed the showing we had planned to see was cancelled because "the key broke... and there's no spare key, sorry" i assume the key to the projector room for that theater?? anyway we went and played arcade games for the rest of the nite.
but it was total bummer since i was amped to see it, and after that weekend it hasnt been showing anywhere on this island.
so today i downloaded the screener that's on thepiratebay and watched it. which is kind of funny because (going on comments posted by people who watched the torrent & saw it in the theater) that version has some of the music that was used in the theatrical version, but also a lot of temporary music-- no joke the sparse piano theme from The Social Network was playing during one of the scenes w/ gosling & mulligan eating dinner with the kid!!
there were other times when the music seemed odd & out of place too: like when gosling sees mulligan having car probs in the supermarket parking lot it was this ridiculous, almost melodramatic synth swell that reminded me of the odd music cues in Contempt-- was this in the theatrical version??
i listened to the whole soundtrack album afterwards though and recognized a lot of it, so hard to say what was temp and what stayed in. i also noticed references in this thread to lines that weren't in the version i watched.
anyways, loved what i saw. the opening scene was so fucking good, the way the Chromatics song was used along with the Clippers radio broadcast and the police scanner chatter to totally build and release tension and move the story without any on-screen dialogue. i agree w/ mandee & ade that a 90 minute film like that would have been awesome to watch but i love movies like The American and Le Samourai too and am a total sucker for post-Mann visuals and italo-revival shit too, so I fucking loved this.
another movie i'm surprised hasn't been mentioned along with those two and Taxi Driver, The Driver, and Thief is Point Blank-- one of my favorite movies ever.
this will def turn in to a dorm-room dvd classic in the next decade.
PS- how did gosling's denim jacket fit him THAT good????
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 20 November 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
for gr80 http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2011-09/15/gq-film-drive-ryan-gosling-style-fashion-costume-design/denim-jacket
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
the Gosling-Brooks denouement was particularly badly edited/ridiculous. yes, you are going to turn yr back on a gangster w/ a big knife collection.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 January 2012 07:35 (twelve years ago) link
I finally watched this today on a flight while I was in a weird dreamy cold medicine and travelling induced haze and I really freaking loved it. Thought that Mulligan/her character were the weakest part - there was just nothing there. I loved the feel of the whole thing though it sort of peaked in the very beginning with the great opening scene. I LOVED the music even though it seemed weird and misplaced at times. Going to go look up soundtrack info now because I've had one song stuck in my head all day. I also really liked the end scene after he fought with Brooks and rewound that part about three times. Anyway I thought it was great and now I maybe even like Gosling a lot? He was pretty good in this at least.
― ☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
I finally watched this today on a flight while I was in a weird dreamy cold medicine and travelling induced haze and I really freaking loved it.
This really would be the perfect movie for a weird dreamy cold medicine and traveling induced haze.
― Nicole, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I think it was a good choice.
― ☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
I liked the film but I recoil now from its unnecessary grisliness. It was so good at suggesting a mood that the violence was redundant.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
sure wish i'd had some sort of chemical enhancement while i had to sit through this tbh
― carpy deems (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah i think that's right.
i look back on this more fondly than i felt while i was actually watching it.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
^^ how I felt about Meek's Cutoff
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
The US DVD release is one of the ugliest last-minute Photoshop rush jobs I've ever seen:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91kjzaYRb0L._AA1500_.jpg
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
I just watched this the same way and didn't really like any of it, kind of seemed like shoot the piano player without all the jokes
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
fork in the eye was a decent joke
really needed to kill Gosling
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
i gotta say, this movie grew on me big time
― latebloomer, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
this really needs to be a MAD movie parody
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a2cc23e5de/drive-thru-official-movie-trailer
― latebloomer, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
"what do you do?"*grin*"i drive... for movies"*grin**looks away bashfully**silence**shit-eating grin*
― am0n
^^^ i think about this every time someone mentions the movie
― buzza, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
gosling plays it kinda "special" throughout the whole movie
― latebloomer, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
OK, so this film was "stylish"< with all the good and bad that labels contains. I have also been struck down by the lurgee, so the slow-prettiness of it worked rather well. Nice enough as a story, but Gosling's blank canvass act was irritating. Like, there was a big hole at the centre of the film which is usually filled with character? Nice soundtrack - not just the the tunes (where the electro noises meshed well with the cityscape) but the whole SOUND of driving.
And props once again for that tense opening sequence.
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 5 January 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
i ended up seeing the theatrical cut w/ the correct music and liked it just as much.
same dude did the music for Contagion btw.
also: http://www.shop-steady.com/Drive-Mens-Replica-Racer-Jacket-p/drive004.htm
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
― latebloomer, Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ha i thought the same thing when i saw it:
thought it was interesting that they exaggerated the stereotypical heroic stoicness/silence/singlemindedness to the point where the main character seemed borderline retarded. like he exhibited literally no signs of intelligent thought/planning, his only asset is being able to drive.
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― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see how RG can be labeled so "cool" when he was lis'nin to the Clippers
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
he could tell they were going to sign chris paul this season
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link