the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

luke blows up the death star and becomes a famous rebel commander.

― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Friday, September 23, 2011 1:17 PM (0 seconds ago)

^^ this

Was it in ESB when the Emperor says something about "the son of skywalker" or is that purely in ROTJ?

he says that in the original esb, i think, even when he's played by rick baker's wife wearing monster makeup

I kinda wish he would make more movies, tbh. The prequels were horrible films but great entertaining b-movie stuff.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:30 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

he directed the action portions of the upcoming Red Tails, apparently. though i can't even imagine why you'd come away from the prequels craving more punishment

Darth developed Post-traumatic stress, and blanked out the knowledge of his past life...didn't resurface until Luke surfaced...that'd be my retcon.

hiding a kid with his closest blood relatives is kind of a gimme to the empire, though. darth was prolly all watevs, long as i don't have to pay support until the death star thing.

Also "The Emperor has forseen this" about Darth & Luke taking him out. Vader was telling his kid the truth, presumably, cos he also tells him that he's his father, and that's the truth. Maybe Vader finds out during Ep IV and is pissed off at Obi-Wan for hiding Luke and Leia from him, so that's why he kills him.

Yeah, probably not, otherwise he wouldn't be out there trying to shoot Luke down in the Death Star trench.

Vader doesn't even really know about Luke until after Ep 4 happens!

So the death star blows up. Vader has to talk to the Emperor, says "The force was strong in the dude that blew up our Death Star, my master". Emperor is like, "Btw, dude is your kid."

I'm guessing that's where another "Nooooooooooo!" would go.

there's a (now probably non-canon) comic where the emperor is cackling that he knows that vader is really anakin, like vader's been keeping it a secret from him, too.

What happened to those 3-D ified Star Wars editions? Because it is very important that they come out, to save 3-D.

3D Phantom Menace is out February 2012

Oh man I can't wait to feel like I'm being violated by Jar Jar's tongue.

there will presumably be inserted bits with lightsabers poking right out of the screen at you and that

The real question is: what were the rebels doing flying around Tatooine and how did the Empire find them there? Isn't it supposed to be way out in the middle of nowhere? Seems like a rather big coincidence.

Tatooine is supposed to be this distant, inconsequential place, well past the scope of the Republic/Empire, yet the characters end up there in nearly every film.

^^^ That. Because if you look at a map like this one, you wonder what the hell kind of route would have taken them past Tattooine en route to Alderaan.

C'mon guys

Its fun to think of this stuff, if kind of pointless. I don't see how this is any worse than those threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries.

Because if you look at a map like this one

why would i be doing a thing like that now

i'm glad i don't know what you're referring to there xpost

You don't have to. I was just contributing to Moodles' musings. I forgot that ILX is most definitely not the place to geek out over nerdy details.

You better look at the map. Many Bothans died to bring you that information.

lol

At the beginning of ep IV, does Darth Vader recall that he grew up on Tatooine?

omg my 10 year old self's heart exploded with joy looking at that map

if you look at a map like this one, you wonder what the hell kind of route would have taken them past Tattooine en route to Alderaan.

You mean like the fact they were there was a diplomatic mission for Leia to get a message to General Obi-wan?

The "diplomatic misson" was cover, but you are right, they weren't actually travelling to Alderaan (also part of cover story).

Basically it comes down to:

1. Disturbance in force tracked to young force-sensitive kid on Tatooine
2. Kid revisits planet attempting to see dying/dead mother, meets stepfamily
3. Jedi dumps kid with said extended family on said planet after his father self-destructs, then hides in cave there.
4. In escaping the planet, jedi finds outlaw hotshot pilot/smuggler who is on the planet after working for local crime lord
5. Said crime lord pays a bounty hunter to track down and capture said smuggler, causing his friends to come get him (and therefore providing jedi kid to visit his mentor's old home

The only really out there part is Han getting dragged back to this backwater, which was kind of odd for him to have been at to begin with

Particularly odd since he was trying to *avoid* Jabba's bounty hunters.

Ah, but you forgot deleted (and then readded minus the dude with a shabby Irish accent) scene where he was negotiating with Jabba in Ep 4.

You know, the one where he walks all the way around Jabba and Lucas thought it would be a great move to have him step on Jabba's tail when they replaced him with a computer generated version so they could reused the footage

(note that I was obsessed with Star Wars as a youth up through the original special editions but know virtually nothing about ep 1-3)

OMG yes, I forgot that was the context for that.

"threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries"

ET is a senator in Star Wars; when ET visits Earth, he plays with Star Wars toys. Therefore, ET proves we are in the Star Wars universe.
Death Star was an inside job.

Sound reasoning, except E.T. was clearly the senator's aide in the Galactic Senate, not the senator himself.

I always took Princess Leia's message to Obi-wan as a desperate hail Mary attempt due to the proximity of Tatooine rather than as the original point of her mission. I thought she was trying to get the plans back to the rebel base so they could analyze and plan out their attack.

Nunez, you just blew my mind.

Its fun to think of this stuff, if kind of pointless. I don't see how this is any worse than those threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries. political gossip

so wait does the death star have a hyperdrive? it hadn't come to mind before that its passage from alderaan to yavin must have been pretty quick. except then it took forever to actually get into position to fire off a shot.

Interstellar travel times make no sense and have no consistency at all in SW.

Whatever, I bet I can make the Kessel run in like, two or three parsecs.

"Using linked banks of 123 hyperdrive field generators tied into a single navigational matrix, the Death Star could travel across the Galaxy at superluminal velocities."

superliminal is a pretty great bit of nonsense

superluminal motion is a real concept! possibly real according to a possibly-not-to-be-recreated experiment!

A friend of mine bought the bluray box sets of Lord of the Rings and Star Wars Ep 4-6. They cost exactly the same amount. The Lord of the Rings box has five discs per movie, a huge book, and a nice packaging design. The Star Wars box has a standard DVD case with three discs in it, one per movie, and a single card for the cover art. That's it. The discs are gray.

also the movies suck

superluminal motion is a real concept! possibly real according to a possibly-not-to-be-recreated experiment!

― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, September 26, 2011 5:48 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=89454&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=2983714

aw 77 link ruined my joke

then again you typed "superliminal" so it must be I who has missed the punchline

you can let me know when the ban for linking 77 offboard runs out :D