guess people should stop making movies
― Gukbe, Friday, 16 September 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
just empty ones
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
so is the problem that it's empty or that it's gory?
― Gukbe, Friday, 16 September 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
htfdik
btw RT Top Critics are mostly syphilitic dumbshits.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
then why are their reviews enough to convince you to skip it?
― Gukbe, Friday, 16 September 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
you are annoying me; ta
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
we really need an opens-umbrella-spins-on-heel-walks-away.gif for these moments
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 September 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
Films that are likely to be unmorbs are obvious and he can tell immediately.
TA!
― mh, Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
some people find it hard to admit that they just don't like a certain type of thing.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
What does this movie make you think and feel about Los Angeles?
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
that the clippers are relevant
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
Sometimes I don't know for sure I really truly liked a movie until morbs starts slamming it unseen.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
let's face it, he's a maniac
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
He'll kill us all.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
Har, I went and saw Shoeshine in rep tonight instead of this. Morbs would've been proud.
― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
i doubt drive is less "empty" than the driver. i love a film that is 100% style/technique
― buzza, Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
ha i think i meant more but w/e this is going to very stylized and the noir-by-numbers plot won't really get in the way of enjoying the visuals i reckon. and i def don't care for gratuitous violence but i'll wait to see the flick before commenting on that.
― buzza, Saturday, 17 September 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
Sometimes I don't know for sure I really truly liked a movie until morbs starts slamming it unseen
You told me I didn't like it, sweet stuff! (also, this is the sight-unseen-I'm Not-There guy)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 September 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
Saw this tonight. There was this obnoxious fat idiot behind me commenting on how "ugly" Carey Mulligan was, and he said it in the most disgusting popcorn-eating fat slob voice: "GAH, (nom) SHEESH (nom) UGLEE!" I wanted to kill him.
Anyway, it was alright. Gorgeous to look at, great score and some awesome moments of tension, but still pretty hollow.
― occam's hellraiser (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
Worth seeing, though.
― occam's hellraiser (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
that was me
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― occam's hellraiser (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
this is a pretty good character study about a man whose clippers fandom turned him into a rageful monster
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 17 September 2011 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
this is pretty good, but like you said its hollow. the stylishness, tension, perfs carry it a long way. gosling's been promoting it as pretty in pink with violence, which made me afraid that it'd be some lame character study instead of a head-smashing good time. but the violence in it exceeded all expectations, reminded me of old school verhoeven like how total recall would have these explosions of comic brutality out of nowhere. i could see it again just for the gore money shots.
but in my opinion it fails at being a john hughes movie because gosling and mulligan are both from the wrong side of the tracks. hughes would never have stood for a same side of the tracks romance. nice try, you danish punk.
it would've been a lot closer to a great movie if they hacked out the carey mulligan character. nothing against her, but the character's a big nothing and has no place in a lean-n-mean walter hill ripoff. plus, gosling is already the movie's blank slate (he reminded me a little of leon from the professional - they're both unsettlingly childlike) - you cant bounce two blanks off each other like that
the multiplex audience was very uncomfortable with the movie's rhythms. lots of walkouts, even before the violent bits kicked in.
its no The Driver, but worth seeing if you dig that kind of movie
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 17 September 2011 07:18 (twelve years ago) link
but in my opinion it fails at being a john hughes movie
first plausibly good thing I've read about it
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 September 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
i wanted to see this before i heard about all the ultra-violence (don't enjoy that kind of thing usually). but ill see it anyway, since Valhalla Rising was kinda vacant but really gorgeous.
― ryan, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
This was a completely senseless good time. And aside from one or two decent pieces the actors were completely wasted throughout (why even both getting good people if you aren't good to even use them well). I did like that it moves at such a languorous pace for the first hour before the violence explodes (audible gasp in my movie theater during the first such sequence--there seem to be a high percentage of folks who thought this was a "date movie", I guess.) Anyway I wasn't bored and the movie (and LA) looked great.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
The Driver might be a better movie than Drive (have to rescreen it) and Thief might be better too (which I also kept thinking of) but I'd rather watch Gosling than either O'Neal or Caan.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
The Driver is pretty good, but when did it become one of the unassailable '70s classics?
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
yea i dont hold the driver or thief for that matter in v high regard & ive seen both fairly recently
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
When Drive came out apparently. Walter Hill really is underrated though.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
I don't view it as such -- only saw it for the first time this spring -- just that it seems to be the most efficient ancestor of this film. I'm guessing Alex doesn't consider Drive the equal of Le Samourai, which some of the more wild-eyed supporters of this movie seem to be writing.
xxp
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but c'mon. The Warriors > The Driver and everyone knows it.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
the wapo review of this described it as "very european" which i read as code for le samourai tbh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Xxp no I don't. I don't even think it's as good as any of the Pusher films.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Long Riders is better than the Driver too.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
The Warriors is amusing but way too 'cute' for me. *surprise*
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
also, neither of those films have Bruce Dern
Neither does Le Samouri.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
charley varrick is a decent parallel imo. esp the heist-that-yields-more-$-than-expected & ensuing complications angle
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
I'm always happy to see a move in the mould of Le Samourai, even if it is The American
― Gukbe, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
ugh, that was a waste, down to the concluding butterfly
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Charley Varrick is a better, albeit less stylish, movie.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Thx for reminding me of The American, makes any hesitations I have about endorsing Drive fall completely away.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't like The American, or at least I didn't like a lot of it, but those kinds of film are like catnip to me.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 17 September 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
it would've been a lot closer to a great movie if they hacked out the carey mulligan character. nothing against her, but the character's a big nothing and has no place in a lean-n-mean walter hill ripoff
Yeah, this. Her second September movie in a row in which she plays a wan nothing.
The racial politics in this thing are...interesting.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
My 12:10 showing was out of a David Lynch movie: a half dozen men with severe mental retardation making nose in the right rear of the theater.
I was the only one who laughed hysterically at Albert Brooks' excellent delivery of his resume ("I used to make movies in the eighties...critics called them European").
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
naw, i think she's pretty important (xpost)
the thing is that carey is an object of affection, you know? she's not a very sexual person. i think that's why she works in this role, she's someone to love (ditto the kid), not someone to lust over.
that said, i was pretty shocked to learn that Refn isn't gay. i imagine most straight directors would have picked a more sexual actress for that role
LOVED this film btw
and want Ryan Gosling
― licking your challops (Tape Store), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
that a movie is made for nerds who fetishize 'hypermasculine' slick violence is usu reason enough, Guk
don't think this is accurate? there's nothing Tarantino (ughh) about this violence. it's not "fun" and there's no cheering it on (the film is tracking terribly with audiences, a C-minus cinemascore--there's a reason they hate it)
― licking your challops (Tape Store), Saturday, 17 September 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link