i don't think i've ever had a pickled beet. they can't be worse than pickled eggs.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
You just haven't had the right pickled egg yet!
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
grow face!!! omg
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
how are these bohemians different from hippies?
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
bohemians have better drugs
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I like pickled radishes thanks to the Koreans, those famous nu-bohomeians. And picked garlic thanks to the Spanish tapas place on Grand St, which, ditto.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
they aren't dirty like dirty, awful, stinking hippies are.
xpost. what que said.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/itisamystery.gif
― Bodrick III, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I ain't aware of too many beets. I know what I know and I don't know these *Fleet*s.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Guys, let's just talk about food, okay? How do you think they get the attached end of pickled garlic cloves so perfectly rounded? It looks like it was tumbled, mine never look that smooth.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
"got a beard"
― milo z, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't disagree that those concepts exist, I just think that far too often they are formed with little to no precision, scientific rigor, or real understanding of more than the critic's own experiences.
That is probably true, and I wouldn't argue with you on that. I think maybe where we differ is that despite all of that, trends are awfully fun for me to think and talk about.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd say that if someone was wearing that hat/scarf number this week in LA, they'd be warm, regardless of bohemian or otherwise.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post.
Cultural trends of the lifestyle sort suggested here (in a throwaway fashion, just cos I was interested if anyone would take it up, or it'd be dismissed as bullshit, which is fine) never have precision, scientific rigor etc. They are often about the critic's incestuous little circle (whether describing yuppies in 86, or electroclashers in the 02), and pointedly ignore 99.4% of the population. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be found interesting, or that there's no such thing as a zeitgeist. I was most interested in whether there was any cross-pollination between newspaper polls that talk about gas prices / unemployment / greenhouse gases, and style / lifestyle choices amongst 20/30 something urban dwellers. If not, fine.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
EVAAAAAAAA
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, I feel like a lot of the time people talking about trends are magnifying some relatively not-that-big thing in their own circles, whereas most of the buzz I keep seeing about the back-to-the-land types of today seems to be coming from people who don't qualify for the "trend" in any way and might not even KNOW anyone who does.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Besides, it's already over: the Times reported on it.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
The only kind of farming that's bohemian is failed farming.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know, i think going "back to the land" is something urban dwellers fantasize about? i sure do.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i've never seen anyone pickling beets. i've known people with beards all my life. my dad drank rye. so calling this a "trend" is kind of absurd to me. it's like asking about this "trend" where people get progressively older until they die.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
words i hate: zeitgeist
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
that's only one word
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
it's one of them german two-wordy words though
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
several of my friends/acquaintances seem to be on the road to being business-minded, non-industrial farmers for realz and they are not annoying bohemian losers obsessed with a trend
tho i have been known to ask them to please stfu abt farming etc, if only b/c i don't really want them to move away from town
i am way too city to go this route full-time
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i sure do.
I think that really just means you need to get out of the city. :)
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
xp with rrrrrobyn!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.hi-arts.co.uk/default.aspx.locid-hianewnwi.Lang-EN.htm
The Ballerina Ballroom Cinema of Dreams Back 08 July 2008
A while ago, on an impulse, a quixotic seizure, Tilda Swinton rented a ballroom in an old Victorian stone building in Nairn in the North East of Scotland, a seaside town where Chaplin used to holiday and which has a balmy microclimate and vistas across the Moray Firth to the Black Isle, Cromarty and Sutherland.
The ballroom is called Ballerina. In the 60s and 70s Pink Floyd, The Who and Cream played there. The ballroom in nearby Elgin was called The Red Shoes.
After renting the Ballerina, Tilda emailed Mark Cousins to ask if he’d help her put on a film festival in it. And she asked her architect friend Colin Cawdor if he’d oversee the refit. As quixotic as she, they both said yes. Tilda took Mark to see the place – they were making a wee film about being 8 1/2 and falling in love with cinema – and he loved it and so, together, they dreamt up a festival of beanbags on the floor, that would run 8 1/2 days, that would be a 6 out of ten on the grunge scale, that would serve home-made cakes and fish finger sandwiches, whose tickets would be £3/£2, and that would transform the Ballerina into something like a ghost train.
― caek, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm almost amazed enough by that article to start a thread.
whereas most of the buzz I keep seeing about the back-to-the-land types of today seems to be coming from people who don't qualify for the "trend" in any way and might not even KNOW anyone who does.
I guess the thing I find most interesting about Paul's thread idea, though, is the notion that an actual "back-to-the-land" trend can also be manifested in superficial ways, like listening to Fleet Foxes or ordering rye at a trendy cocktail bar. (Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.)
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
the quixotic seizure jumped over the lazy dog
― and what, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.
i think people just like the way it tastes.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that there is a significant divide among people I know, between those who are REALLY focused on profit-driven jobs (sales, mostly) and those who are focused on other things, including non profit driven jobs, family, liesure activities, etc.
Those in the former tend to have flashier cars and wardrobes, and tend to engage in more expensive and "going out" centric activities. Those in the latter tend to cook at home more frequently, dress more for comfort than latest style, be a little less spendthrifty...
I don't know. I'm currently out of work studying to take my bar exam. So, I'm forced to be spend thrifty, I dress for comfort because the rest of my life is a ball of stress, and I cook at home because I'm always here. This all could change once I am licensed and arguing for other people for profit.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I would like to go back to The Land http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/2273787242_ea09b5338c.jpg?v=0
― Euler, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Its a shame that a venerable and respected beverage like rye whiskey is pigeon-holed because its percieved as trendy.
Can't we save that lable for shit that involves fruit juices or sugar-rimmed glasses?
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
haha yeah it's funny b/c i've been out to 'the country' a few times in the past couple months and tho i loved it, each time i felt an increased sense of alienation - because 'the country' just like the city is in fact full of annoying people despite its pastoral image. the city, or this city, seems to mitigate the annoyances, for me.
i think i am just going to leave the pickling of things up to other people btw
xpostsxposts
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Can't we save that lable for shit that involves fruit juices
me and my greyhound say fuck you!
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.
Old-timey things like chamber music?
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
like chamber pots?
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
xp My pomegranate-tini says, well excuuuuuse me.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
That's it, no more flush toilets for me, it's all about the fashion chamber pots from now on.
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't want to meet the hipster with a chamber pot fetish. christ, if you thought the Rainbo smelled bad BEFORE...
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Just kidding, I don't drink pomegranate-tinis. Unless they're half-price.
"Pffft, yours is tin? I've got the original porcelain."
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i pee into a buffalo skin sac which i proceed to pour on the mint in m backyard. NITRATES
― Will M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
laurel drank a pomegranate martini last week! i saw it!
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Dan, you just don't get it: the tin sounds WARMER, more REAL.
xp: yes, and it was half-price!!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, alright. Greyhounds, margaritas, screwdrivers and gin&juice don't implicate the trendy frufru drink label.
Neither should rye.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
thank you barkeep!
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Gin and juice, you say? Like, say, LIMEADE?
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
bearded hipsters running vodka lemonade stands while playing acoustic guitars
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
The well-turned thing about the imagery is the red-on-white scarves/snow that it kinda suggests at the end may have turned to red-on-white blood/snow.
Yeah, I got that.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
fully true tho that it works better in the ear than on the page, if that is the comparison, as i have just heard this on their myspace dot com
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i saw these guys a bit before this micro-blowup and they were impressive -- the singing especially, yes. the songs were catchy and memorable hearing them once, live, so they must be doing something right and it's not surprising they are getting buzz. they were obviously going for that minor-key t-bone burnett style space-country and they nailed it. i always appreciate a band who orchestrates things well, and there was plenty of reverb and purposeful echo-y empty space instead of a lot of generic strumming with a pedal steel on top or whatever.
― goole, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i should add here FWIW, i like these guys okay! their voices are great, songs are cool even if i don't care for their lyrics. but i don't care about lyrics that much.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
basically these guys make me feel old which i am cool with feeling/being! but not via them haha ha
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
if i was me as i was in 2000 today then i wld be all into this and butter churning
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
it works better in the ear than on the page
now what'd I JUST say?
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
oh wait sorry i misread you, je suis desolee
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
d'accord
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Quand on est ensemble...
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
oui, mais moi...
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
why would anyone ever say 'wear a beard'?? unless this is a british thing to say, in which case, carry on being british or whatever
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
He wears his whiskers long She wears her hair in a bun etc.
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
wears GROWS wears PUTS
― Will M., Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, just like that classic song, "if you're going to San Francisco / be sure to PUT some flowers in your hair"
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Um that's not the same thing at all!
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Am I seriously going to have to get out a dictionary and/or copies of 19th-century literature to convince you guys this usage exists?
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
No, I'm just being a dick
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha so am I, kinda. (Jay-Z says "wears her hair in a twist!") It's totally archaic, but I really do like the use of "wear" for styling decisions, including hair growths -- wear your jeans tight, wear your hair long, wear side-whiskers, wear a beard
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
wear your heart on your sleeve, wear your fingers to the bone, wear a point into the ground, wear out a welcome
― rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i have just been french-english exchanging and in this talk often turns to discussions of the idiomatic and grammatically weird or archaic when trying to find correct translations - it is funny but also confusing because yeah maybe the wear a beard thing etc is right even if only nabisco and people in the 19thC use it
language so crazy
― rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ok but if she has already put her hair in a bun she is wearing her hair in a bun.
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link