um , yeah- tombot was nothing but charm in his list of points. riiiiiiight. so if you are bostonian you cant get angry? only if you are from DC. i get it.
xpost: ally- i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
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I find these criticisms interesting, because so many of them are like...seeing Oxford Street and coming to the conclusion that London sucks, or going to Fifth Avenue and deciding that NYC sucks. Why bother listening to "Jamn 94.5" bullshit commercial radio when there are so many great college radio stations here? Turn that dial leftward! We've got some of the greatest college radio stations in the country--WMBR, WZBC, and WHRB, to name but a few. First off, I've been living here going on five years now. I've never lived in "Boston" proper--I lived in Cambridge for 4 years (MIT), and now I work on documentary films for WGBH (the Boston PBS affiliate) and live in Somerville. I think in order to love/hate this place fully, you've got to experience all the parts of it.
Of course most of Boston--the rich, snotty parts, like the Back Bay--suck. Avoid them like the plague. Yes, Central Square (which is in Cambridge, not Boston) has become more gentrified..but look beyond Central; explore the outer edges..Jamaica Plain, Brighton, Allston, Somerville. South Boston. The parts of Cambridge that aren't directly on the T but still within walking distance. The parts that are less traveled.
There is beauty here; you just have to find it. And as much as I sometimes think I hate living here, I find myself getting defensive about it. Today in Central Square I ran into a group of kids from Berkeley. They were walking down Mass Ave, and one of them said "Dude, this is nothing like Telegraph." Of course it's not.. keep your alterna-hippies to yourself, I say. Sure, we don't have Amoeba Records, but we do have some fucking good record stores here! I live a stone's throw away from Other Music, Planet Records, Disc Diggers, Twisted Village, and Nuggets, to name but a few of the great independently- minded music shops around here.
So I found myself walking these Berkeley kids around Central Square, pointing at things and saying "See this bank? This used to be an anarchist bookstore. See this Gap and this Starbucks? This block used to be full of great independent coffeehouses." I felt terrible, and cheesy, a back-in-the-day geezer even though I'm in my 20s. But this small-town city is a part of me. Then I pointed them out to some interesting places that they should go. I cheer for the little independents around the city that are still thriving, and support them as much as I can. Central Square still does have things going for it. The Middle East, for one, (with many great & cheap shows this year!), Harvest, 1369 Coffeehouse, etc. I live near Davis Square now, which has got a good amount of independent coffeeshops, bookstores, and bars...good restaurants, and its own modest little art scene that isn't New York in scale but doesn't try to be. Everything here is in miniature, but there's something odd and wonderful about that sometimes.
Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.) You've got to keep looking around for the interesting bits of life. And when I move out of here for good in August for grad school, I think I will miss it sorely, because for as many faults as Cambridge/Somerville/ Boston/etc have, they've still got a lot of good, and a lot that we take for granted.
And hey, if anyone is visiting the Boston area, send me an email and I'd be glad to show you around to all the glorious weird bits that still lie below the surface.
-- geeta (geet...), February 24th, 2002.
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
Asshole. Writing a nasty post about how someone else is "dense" while calling them a "motherfucking redneck" is just about the stupidest, contradictory thing I've seen anyone do in a long while round here and this place is full of overwrought jackasses (hello GANGS OF ILX) so a winner is YOU.
* lest anyone get confused, I'm not advocating this point of view.
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
he was an ass. i was an ass. the difference being, he doesnt know what he is talking about when he talks of what to do (or not to do) in boston. i might of jumped all over him, but if you read all of the posts about boston, people shit all over this place. and that sort of bums me out.i picked out tombot cause it was the last offending post on the thread.
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
but being a big fish in a small pond makes comparisons to NYC, Chicago or LA even more ludicrous!
the "small pond" therein being Boston, NOT NYC (or Chicago or LA).
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
i live in NYC now
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:24 (twenty years ago) link
― geezer, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:27 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link
oh wait espn updates!!! hol don
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
i know what the fu....1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to. 2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with thatnyc is a small pond? in what universe? nyc is a small pond? in what universe? nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link
― ke[hm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
(you dont look so hott with the ladieeezzz now buubz)
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
i always thought galaxie 500 were rubbish so i'm not gonna count 'em.
haha this thread hurts my head worse than a hundred dogs (this is my new favorite expression)
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link