Another Star Trek I had over the other incarnations -- BETTER BACKGROUND MUSIC! Esp. that duh-dum-duh-dum-DUH-DUM-duh-dum theme whenever Kirk's ass was in deep ship.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
On the other hand, Troi's mother was AWESOME.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
And the original ST's music was Varese-influenced, hey? Hmmmm ... never knew that! Maybe I should go over to that "Who Opened Your Ears" thread in ILM and change an answer or two of mine :-)
Troi's mom was cooler than Troi, not more attractive! Aigh, my eyes!
― JM, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
troi: not attractive.
crusher: nuh-uh.
troi's mom: uh.
that guy who was troi's mom's butler or something and was the guy who played lurch in the addams family movies: mrowr.
question: who liked first contact? it was like a next generation episode, only like, cool. plus, supercool supporting cast with alfre woodard and the farmer guy from babe.
someone start a star wars thread so i can bitch about how much that sucks except for empire strikes back.
― ethan, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― james e l, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
hey i just remembered something else i liked in next generation, although it's from that bastard movie where kirk dies (falling off a walkway! the fuck? he's saved the universe like two hundred times and he falls of a walkway and dies? fuck). um anyway, i liked when data said 'shit'.
― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jel --, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Andrew L has not mentioned his great expertness in this area, for some reason. I know about it because I very briefly worked under him on a Star Trek magazine!
― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
Enterprise - trip is annoying but that vulcan's fit.
― s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
first series: like what i haf seen but haven't watched many episodes.
Next generation: only reached goodeness after the Borg came in the picture.
Deep space nine: deeply flawed (a space station in the middle of nowhere and they had to make a war to make it interesting so it had problems just like next generation) though I did watch most of it.
Voyager: the absolute fucking classic. They are stranded and haf to go back but they explore the other side of the quadrant which means all sorts of storylines, (this aspect is exploited to the full) and if that isn't enough then here are the words that settle this argument.
SEVEN OF NINE.
The woman of my dreams (Troi is an ugly witch compared to my seven). She's like Data (both trying to gain 'humanity') but she's a woman. And what a woman. Then the doctor who i think is rilly rilly funny too.
I was pissed off that my brother missed taping two episodes and I made him aware of that to say the least(only six were taped, I had to spend all night watching them on the day i got back from canada and it was time well spent though seven is breaking my heart trying to 'get' chakotay).
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Fun fact: The student services building at my school is called the William Shatner building & even has the Shatner Ballroom. Classic!)
― Miss Laura, Thursday, 22 August 2002 08:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 08:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
DO YOU SEE!!?
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
heh. Alex (my brother's name) would never say 'improv' as he doesn't know what that is. or wants to know.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Good: Wrath Of Khan, The Voyage Home (time travel, whales), The Undiscovered Country (Peace with the Klingons), First Contact (The Borg hit Earth), hopefully Nemesis
Bad: Star Trek: the Motionless Picture, The Search For Spock, The Final Frontier (Crazy Vulcan searches for God), Generations (Malcom MacDowell froths, Kirk dies), Insurrections (not that terrible, just a double length TNG episode).
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
Having finally seen the trailer, my hopes for the film are now quite high.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
ARGH. Now I'm massively disappointed as well!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― katie (katie), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
So while I can see the intrinsic appeal of the attractiveness of the women in late STrek progs, I can't see it as a tribute to the imagination, skill and integrity of the programme makers.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
There is hope left in this sad world.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Riker and Troi get married in the new movie...
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 22 August 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
And of course:
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~pg02/khan.png
"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~lthomas/nerd.jpg
― Jimmy Carter, History's Greatest Monster (Leee), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 5 August 2004 06:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Between the ages of 11 and 16 or so, I collected some 100+ of the novels, which I'm hoping to pick up out of storage from my parents' house for some between-semesters pulp reading. Because they were all from different authors, they ran the range of being shoot-em-up's, cheesy comedies, psychological thrillers, and really quite provocative sci-fi that just happened to have the Star Trek characters involved.
― derrick (derrick), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Hm, that actually would be a good way to get in some sharp ideas via a larger superstructure. Wonder if the Star Wars novels have said range. (I am not anxious to find out for myself.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
it's okay (and if you're halfway thru S1 and still think it's not bad then you'll be totally fine!)
as ever, the non-humans are the most interesting characters. yes that includes porthos
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 April 2024 05:17 (one month ago) link
the theme song IS good tho
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:22 (one month ago) link
she got saddled with some truly egregious crap, but i think jolene blaylock was really very good -- certainly much better than bakula
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 April 2024 05:25 (one month ago) link
The theme song + being weird and horny about the Vulcan XO gave it a worse reputation than it deserves. Still the worst pre-Discovery series but not awful.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:25 (one month ago) link
Yeah its like, Trek if they put it on NBC like a season of NCIS or something. I cant put my finger on it, maybe its the cadre of actors? And yes, a lot of gratuitous tightly-clinging outfits both on T'Pol and sometimes on other female crew, which, ugh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:59 (one month ago) link
i'd put enterprise above tng, ds9, and voyager, even when they get into "the expanse" and there's that dumb AF xindi nonsense with one xindi species that is insect, one xindi species that is monkeys, one xindi species that is reptiles, one xindi species that is fish etc like it was written by a 5 year old. oh the british dude is unwittingly hilarious as well "would you mind awfully if i sacrifice myself here for the good of the crew, captain?"
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 22 April 2024 08:08 (one month ago) link
re: network trash serial vibe, weirdly many of the actors/producers ended up doing 24 so it was definitely the era for neo-con trek. the xindi "5 species" stuff i thought was at least ambitious and kind of new for trek though yeah the entire series was very much a 5-year old's concept of trek.
the actual star trek kid's show is surprisingly good! though picking jason mantzoukas to voice any character puts up this hurdle of "hey why does that alien sound like jason mantzoukas?"
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 April 2024 15:13 (one month ago) link
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/beam-us-back-scotty/
― ን (nabisco), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
I only got through a handful of Enterprise episodes, I just couldn't stand how enamored the show was of Trip.
Speaking of terrible Trek shows, how's the last season of Disco? Still a skip for someone who stopped hate-watching last season? I don't want to go into the thread for fear of spoilers (which I realize is kind of silly in this case).
― Costas Mandylorian (Leee), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:38 (one month ago) link
I don't know what the level of showrunner drama is compared to earlier but it feels like a show that's not at all concerned with winning over people who didn't like any of the previous seasons the way Picard did in its last one.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 April 2024 16:58 (one month ago) link
would recommend continued hate-watching tbh - actually hate probably too strong a word - but i enjoy being lightly infuriated by it - has definitely settled down into a kind of “late Voyager” style where they are just doing it cos they do it and have surrendered any ambitions to shock or surprise
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:04 (one month ago) link
it feels like a show that's not at all concerned with winning over people who didn't like any of the previous seasons
See I dont agree, I feel like theyre pulling out way more fanservice in this season than ever? But, I already mentioned that in the DISCO thread.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 April 2024 22:27 (one month ago) link
finally they r making Disco for the true fans (ie nobody)
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:57 (one month ago) link
A very silly Enterprise ep featuring Jeffry Coombs AND Ethan Phillips as Ferengi. I am confused - I assume this is the first time humans meet Ferengi because in a prior ep at the monastery someone mentions 'em and all the humans shrug.
But wasnt there a terrible S1 episode of TNG where they meet Ferengi and act like they never have before?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:41 (one month ago) link
the enterprise nx-01 (ffs why do i know that) encounters several things/people/species that based on lore it absolutely should not -- but they fudge it by never letting the things/people/species be named
it's garbage, but they either couldn't think up any better interlocutors or felt they needed half-assed references to known entities for people to watch
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:55 (one month ago) link
Yeah I get the impression one has to do a bit of hand-waving when it comes to how canon Enterprise was compared to everything else.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 03:29 (one month ago) link
IIRC they get around it by never saying the word Ferengi, they're just an unnamed species of space pirate
Really too bad TNG didn't go with Roddenberry's concept of horny space pirates with enormous codpieces.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link
https://stephenliddell.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/lord-flashheart.jpg
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 03:40 (one month ago) link
woof!
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 03:47 (one month ago) link
jeffrey combs is what sold me on enterprise. prize ham
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 06:28 (one month ago) link
search function suggests i saw more of voyager in lockdown than i thought:
> daily voyager repeats now on season 3 in the UK.> ― koogs, Friday, 6 August 2021
yesterday's episode was Tuvix, season S02E24, which i'm sure i saw as part of the above. so i can ignore the next 130 episodes 8)
― koogs, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
Last night we got to an Enterprise ep I would have really enjoyed - basically seemed to be Event Horizon for Vulcans (they all went mad and killed each other).
Except, about 70% of the episode was full of intensely strong strobing light, in that bright blue-white spectrum. I am down with lurgy anyway but fuck me, it gave me a severe headache and I had to sit through a lot of the ep with my hands in front of my eyes. Fucking ruined it. Pity, its the one time Jolene Blalock got to actually act (her screaming fit right at the start was really full on).
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 May 2024 01:23 (three weeks ago) link
Just finished Enterprise. Finally understand everyone being up in arms about the finale. What a weird way to end a show! Take everything away from the cast - they didn't even show Archer's speech! - make it all about fucking Frakes. Kill Trip. PAH.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 13 June 2024 07:04 (three days ago) link