"night of the hunter"

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (151 of them)

For me, this is Stanley Cortez's (Ambersons) film--images and passages that are stunning. The riverboat section seems to come out of nowhere; it's like the film stops for a few minutes so they can make film history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFzTBPy7nl8&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

clemenza, Friday, 20 May 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i love this film so much i can barely bring myself to defend it. i dunno, i'm sure there are things to criticize about it, but none of the criticisms on this thread really ring true for me -- or if they do, i don't see them as flaws. like, the kids undeniably act 'poorly' and woodenly, but somehow that works for me as part of the texture of the film. i sure don't think that more 'realistic' kids would have made the film better.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this is not a Rossellini film.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

... and couldn't they have made more realistic sets?!

The hoppiest hop hopper now with xtra hops (Dan Peterson), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

My kid could have made a better spiderweb.

The Wine Dark City (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't call the little girl wooden at all--she's other-wordly.

clemenza, Friday, 20 May 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I'm looking fwd to the doc supplements to see if Cholly had her hypnotized.

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Seem to remember that somebody other than he directed the kids, but I'll have to look it up tonight.

The Wine Dark City (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought I read that Mitchum directed them...? Laughton couldn't stand them.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure that's been disproven... from the iMdB:

"Robert Mitchum's autobiography contains many spurious accounts of the making of the film; one, for example, concerns director Charles Laughton, and how he supposedly found the script by James Agee totally unacceptable, rewriting it himself. This has been disproved by the discovery of Agee's 293-page first draft, back in 2004, which is, scene-for-scene, the film that Laughton directed.... Laughton is said to have had no great love for children, and so despised directing them in this film that Robert Mitchum found himself directing the children in several scenes. In reality, Laughton obsessed over ever facet of his first feature, including getting the performances of every actor (even the children) right; this would lead to him dismissing one actor, in particular, after all of his scenes had already been shot and starting again with another in the part."

also, look up Eric's review of the Criterion re the 2nd disc, which shows Laughton at work via outtakes etc.

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 May 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

And yeah, if you told me this was the greatest film of all time, I wouldn't argue with you for a second.

OTM

i love this film so much i can barely bring myself to defend it.

OTM

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 20 May 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

that is Mitchum singing... burt a midget on the long shot of the horse on the horizon.

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 May 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Burt, a midget, stand-in for Robert Mitchum

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Agee's 293-page first draft, back in 2004, which is, scene-for-scene, the film that Laughton directed

That seems awfully long!

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Burt's right up there with Alan Smithee and the Wilhelm scream in movie lore.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

There goes Burt again... don't he never sleep?

http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/NightHunter04.jpg

The hoppiest hop hopper now with xtra hops (Dan Peterson), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

He actually used to post on ILX as burt_stanton, true story.

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Friday, 20 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it did seem like it was plague time for little ones

Milton Parker, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Acting. Pshaw. Acting is so 2010. Concern for "good acting" has blinded many a viewer to genius cinema. And the condemnations are never insightful, pivoting on some bogus, received notion of verisimilitude. Yawn.

rah!

nakhchivan, Friday, 20 May 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

A couple of years after watching Night of the Hunter, I read this Brothers Grimm's tale, and got the same powerful punch in the stomach:

There was once a little girl who was obstinate and inquisitive, and when her parents told her to do anything, she did not obey them, so how could she fare well? One day she said to her parents, "I have heard so much of Frau Trude, I will go to her some day. People say that everything about her does look so strange, and that there are such odd things in her house, that I have become quite curious!" Her parents absolutely forbade her, and said, "Frau Trude is a bad woman, who does wicked things, and if thou goest to her; thou art no longer our child." But the maiden did not let herself be turned aside by her parent's prohibition, and still went to Frau Trude. And when she got to her, Frau Trude said, "Why art thou so pale?" "Ah," she replied, and her whole body trembled, "I have been so terrified at what I have seen." "What hast thou seen?" "I saw a black man on your steps." "That was a collier." "Then I saw a green man." "That was a huntsman." "After that I saw a blood-red man." "That was a butcher." "Ah, Frau Trude, I was terrified; I looked through the window and saw not you, but, as I verily believe, the devil himself with a head of fire." "Oho!" said she, "then thou hast seen the witch in her proper costume. I have been waiting for thee, and wanting thee a long time already; thou shalt give me some light." Then she changed the girl into a block of wood, and threw it into the fire. And when it was in full blaze she sat down close to it, and warmed herself by it, and said, "That shines bright for once in a way."

Marco Damiani, Sunday, 22 May 2011 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Laughton to Winters in the murder-scene outtakes: “Doesn’t matter about the lines; just smile, Shelley, and be seraphic.”

http://littleblogtoo.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-down-laughtons-haunting-night.html

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

on TCM tomorrow night (6/15) at 8pm

Gukbe, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

so, Gish fires one shot at Mitchum and he goes squawking into the barn like a cartoon rooster? mysteriously unsatisfying climax, and someone on the Criterion commentary says as much.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

That whole sequence is perfectly filmed.

Eric H., Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

just disappointingly conceived?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

Not really disappointing by my estimation.

Eric H., Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

I regard this as one of the two or three closest things to a perfect movie.

Eric H., Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllldreeennnn.....

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

I MUST see this movie again! Soon.....

*tera, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

I've never really done too much hard thinking about it, but the ending certainly seems deliberate in its effect--Gish's character is certainly as archetypal as Mitchum's in that respect...

ryan, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

seven years pass...

Just found the book Night of the Hunter on a bargain table and read it; it's actually very good and it turns out the movie is a REALLY faithful adaptation.

Lily Dale, Monday, 18 November 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link

This is true and was trying to remember it when somebody said something similar on the thread about The Maltese Falcon.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 November 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.