reading the books has made me even more psyched on watching the tv show
also cozen otm
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
thx to cozen bye
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
~btw~
this show has totally made me go back and pick up where i left off amidst book 4
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
when I first started in with the books I was bored with the endless description of the armor but then i got really into it. i think seeing the "Arms and Armor of the Habsburg Empire" traveling exhibit around the same time raised my interest.
also, the sumptuous meals described made very hungry
― brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
mark my words gbx, you'll catch yourself saying HODOR for no reason when you're alone
― brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
truthbomb
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
For all your ASOIAF recipe needshttp://innatthecrossroads.wordpress.com/
― Number None, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
omg
― brownie, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
HA!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
BTW about to watch this weeks episode - eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
week's
I want max to send me the screeners RIGH NOW
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link
great ep, tho i thought the scene between dany's blonde pervy brother and the concubine chick went on for too long and was really weird. tho i guess they need these expositional scenes to fill in backstory stuff.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
You're right, I got a very draggy feeling with that scene too.
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link
thought last week was better, a whole lot of exposition-dumping this week. About ready to stop meeting new characters and start seeing 'em get into action of some kind (as in the last couple of minutes.)
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man that jousting scene was brutal, y'all are bloodthirsty folk. Remind me never to get on your bad sides.
― NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
lol loving "Why Do They Call You Littlefinger" Arya. Ned Stark is kinda dumb though! Is this the first time we've seen his right-hand man in a speaking capacity?
― NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Last scene with Lady Cat was some righteousness though.
― NoShoutsNoCalls (Leee), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man that jousting scene was brutal, y'all are bloodthirsty folk.
Brutal but awsome!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I kinda couldn't figure out what happened -- was that splinter in the guy's throat from the lance itself, or did it happen when he was falling off the horse?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
ie: is this a dangerous sport that can lead to your death or is the mountain just a particularly violent and disturbed fighter (as is indicated by Littlefinger's story to Sansa)? Also, why did Littlefinger tell Sansa that story? Was he trying to freak her out?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
is this a dangerous sport that can lead to your death or is the mountain just a particularly violent and disturbed fighter (as is indicated by Littlefinger's story to Sansa)?
both?
Also, why did Littlefinger tell Sansa that story? Was he trying to freak her out?
to warn her about the cleganes, i think, both the mountain and the hound? in the book the hound tells her the story himself
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
my word, that recipe site
i think i suddenly stopped liking the books the fifth or sixth time someone ate an olive; that, i think, is what did it for me
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i. the Mountain's lance slipped under an improperly fastened gorget and impaled him
ii. Littlefinger's motivations for most things he does tend to be rather oblique
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the sense it was more a malfunction than intentional. People seemed pretty horrified and if the Mountain was known for killing his jousting partners presumably they would've known what to expect. Kinda a mirror to the Dothraki festival where they also kill ppl but they're all pretty cool with it. It makes a nice counterpoint that no matter where you are -- among the Dothraki or in the capital city, people are killing other ppl for pretty much no reason. The only difference is the civilized veneer applied in the capital.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
^ Yeah I thought definite armor malfunction.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Sir Hugh was Jon Arryn's squire. Jon Arryn who was Ned Stark suspects was poisoned....
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
how is carcetti?
there are five olive-eating scenes in 'a storm of swords', by the way, and four in 'a feast for crows'; there are additionally four scenes between the two which take place in or proximate to an olive grove, and thirteen situations in which someone's skin is described as 'olive', in four of which it is immediately followed by a reference to the size of their breasts.
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
olive-eating data for the first two is proving hard to find.
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
that is an incredibly weird thing to notice. maybe in westeros olives are super plentiful. it's basically forecast: mediterranean in king's landing and south, so presumably they've got a lot of trees or summat.
― ignore the man behind the parentheses (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
now that i think about it, the real 'reason' littlefinger told that story to sansa is probably that they didnt want to shoot another scene & knew that 'Littlefinger does mysterious shit' would serve in the place of real character motivation - i think it makes way more sense coming from the Hound. in the book he also explains (as a way of mocking Sansa's belief that knights are valorous men whose only interest is in protecting the weak) in that scene that Gregor intentionally tilted at Hugh's weak spot cuz Gregor's just a brutal man who loves to kill
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
it's weird, but the hound is introduced and seems like the most boring notion of a character, & littlefinger seems exactly like what the book needs, but the hound's arc is actually pretty compelling until SPOILER, whereas that of littlefinger quickly reaches the level of 'oh, right, yes, go on then'; hopefully he will get killed off in a really entertaining fashion
bean i think it's an example of the paucity of martin's imagination but i am aware that it's not exactly the silver bullet that's going to convince anyone else -- i just found it incredibly annoying that the books go medieval diet medieval diet medieval diet, & then he decides that westeros is actually the size of a continent, and the books go OLIVES OLIVES OLIVES CHICKPEAS CHICKPEAS
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
all the olive-eating scenes take place in Dorne dont they? which is basically moorish spain
idk i never noticed the olives as much as, like, salt cod and freakin lemoncakes
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
it's moorish spain if moorish spain was cornwall, yes
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i forgot about all those cornish deserts
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
toatlly going to make these: http://innatthecrossroads.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/lemon-cakes-part-2/
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
the tom colicchio game of thrones food truck did lemoncakes too, but the recipe is trickier:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/storage/got-lemon-cakes-recipe.pdf
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
dorne is prolly the goofiest the books get w/r/t nineteenth-century-style OMG EXOTIC, although the dothraki put up a good fight
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
like -- what bugs me about the books (apart from the narrative stasis) is that martin wants to have his cake and eat it too as to whether westeros is basically medieval england or whether it's a panopoly of various cultures -- so there's this 70s reader's digest cookbook idea of what people ought to be eating, and the logistics of empire are like the war of the roses when they ought to be like rome, and people in an area the size of south america have been speaking one language for six thousand years, before which there were two languages
ha i don't even think he even had the idea that dorn was going to be full of desert and shit until he was halfway through the second book, though
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
their foods are spicy... the women spicier!!!
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
reading the books made me realize i'm some kind of marxist after all, because it pisses me off how just totally bored martin is by "the smallfolk" and by any aspect of history that isn't the part where whispery eunuchs poison heirs in the west wing. i read an interview with him where he was like "i'm into history, but lol not the boring parts" and like oh you mean the relevant parts, dickhead
totally having fun watching this though
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post lol
yeah that recipe might be a little too complex for my remedial baking skills - could prob handle the other tho.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
where whispery eunuchs poison heirs in the west wing
this phrase is awesome! i want to embroider it on a sampler
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
(in the third book there's a bunch of tyrion/littlefinger/whoever stuff involving how much "coin" the "realm" has, and it's really basic and trivial and like someone eating their vegetables: "i guess there should be some administrative intrigue here but ugh why can't people get raped over grain prices")
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post yeah it is
DLH you're a very good writer even on a msgbrd. I can't imagine what you write like elsewhere.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
some friends say not as well!
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i think hes more curious about it than you let on dlh - there's an entire POV in AFFC that's dedicated to just showing how devastated the commoners are by the wars being waged by all these narcissistic aristocrats (and from what i can tell the fans hated him for it) - i mean hes definitely more interested in the ~lords & ladies~ type stuff but i will give him credit if he concludes the series (heh) in a way that questions these power structures, because from a certain perspective basically everyone in the books is a villain
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
there's an entire POV in AFFC that's dedicated to just showing how devastated the commoners are by the wars being waged by all these narcissistic aristocrats
was afraid someone would say this cuz i haven't finished this one. but this is cool and makes sense; one of the neat things about him not planning the story from the beginning is his interests/priorities/style can shift.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i've read it and i don't know which one he means tbh. but the entire plotline with the brotherhood of the thingummy (i hope this is loose enough to not be considered a spoiler) is at least vaguely concerned with all of that, i suppose -- but in the vague-received-idea-of-robin-hood way, not the how-does-robin-hood-actually-function way
― thomp, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link