2008 Primaries Thread

uh yah why ever could that be?

lol @ Furry Fred Thompson

of course making a deal with BushCo would be totally out-of-character for the Clintons this go-round - http://www.newsweek.com/id/69545 (and http://www.slate.com/id/2177540/nav/fix/#burklecoup)

"President Clinton believes in redemption and moving forward," says spokeswoman Jennifer Hanley.

amazingly, so does BushCo! - http://www.newsinkling.org/cia-leak-investigation/waxman-white-house-is-blocking-fitzgeralds-cooperation-in-plame.html

and, oh look, the Clintons' book agent got Rove a book deal with Carville's wife - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/saturday/orl-a2fill2207dec22,0,2196213.story. Who, as it happens, was a member of the White House Iraq Group, and is reported to have testified before the Plame grand jury.

hey, who do you think might be attorney general in a Clinton administration? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/nyregion/11cuomo.html?ref=us

nice job linking to mickey kaus homie

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/123107Parry.shtml

I like Huckabee, but this might have been slightly over the top ...

Mention of the recent confrontation between Iranian patrol boats and U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf triggered a lot of tough talk and saber rattling from the group, with Huckabee warning the Iranians that if they had been any more provocative, "The next thing you see are the gates of Hell."

slightly

full-court press: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=3892297&page=1

wtf @ daria not getting the racial coding of basketball and trash talking but reading sexism into any criticisms of hillary ever

wtf @ gabbneb for exactly the converse!

(the converse actually being prevalent, and woven into the press discourse about her!!)

from that rove link upthread:

Naturally, this leads to speculation that Rove wants Senator Clinton to prevail in next year's primaries because he perceives her as the Democrats weakest candidate.

this is kinda what i was saying before about rove's comments about obama and hillary. makes more sense, too, now that bush has allegedly been saying that clinton will most likely be the nominee.

maybe i just see this is because i do think hillary is the weaker candidate, i don't know. but i wouldn't be surprised if rove/bush think so, too, and that they're not optimistic about republican chances if obama is the nominee.

Maybe Rove wants you to think he thinks she's the weakest. It's turtles all the way down.

Senator Barack Obama's campaign wasted no time in responding to the President.

"I can't tell if Bush is endorsing Hillary, hoping she's the nominee, or thanking her for her votes on Iraq and Iran," Obama, D-Ill., spokesperson Bill Burton told ABC News.

ZONG

source?

oops, nevermind, got it

bottom line about all the supposed Rove psy-ops is that Rove doesn't really know for sure who the stronger candidate will be and also doesn't know for sure who the Republican contender will be, so there's no point in trying to read him.

kerry endorses obama
bush 'endorses' clinton

haahahaaaaa

ned lamont (the guy who bumped lieberman from the dem party in '06, then lost to him) endorses obama

bottom line about all the supposed Rove psy-ops is that Rove doesn't really know for sure who the stronger candidate will be and also doesn't know for sure who the Republican contender will be, so there's no point in trying to read him.

OTM. Myths of Rove's omniscience way, way overrated. The tortured analysis that people are applying to his every comment is overdone. First he criticizes Hillary (then the front-runner), and people assume that he is trying to boost her by criticizing her. Then he criticizes Obama (at that time the front-runner), and people assume that, well, he is still trying to boost Hillary. Maybe he just likes to criticize Democrats?

That's just what he wants you to *BANG*

haha

in other news:

kucinich wants an nh recount

Rove doesn't know what's up, but Hurting's got the bottom line

i dont know when gabbneb's being sarcastic anymore

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/report_az_governor_janet_napolitano_endorsing_obama.php

At this point, Obama has enough high-profile endorsements to be considered -- if not "the" establishment candidate -- at least "an" establishment candidate.

If she picks Cuomo for AG, who else is going to get in there? I'm for a fully dynastic cabinet. What position can we give to Patrick Kennedy?

If they weren't burning bridges so furiously, a Pres. Obama could appoint Bill or Hillary Clinton to cabinet posts.

Supreme Court

Yeah, I heard that, too. It would be a great role for Bill Clinton.

like he'd take it

Schwarzenegger for McCain? http://thepage.time.com/2008/01/11/first-action-hero/

w j clinton appointment to scotus would be a fucking laff riot

the confirmation hearings wd be like Clarence Thomas crossed with the impeachment trial, ie, I would move to Canada

mayb they could take a case that would legally define "is"

hahaha clinton would never shut up during oral* argument, it would be hysterical but I'd feel bad for the transcribers.

*NYUK NYUK NUYK

Like I said, if it weren't for the new hostility between their camps, I'm not sure why Bill Clinton wouldn't consider a Supreme Court appointment by Obama.

As to Obama's viability, to me, this is one of his biggest Achilles heels. But I suspect that, in a GE, the stakes are high enough were all angry Democrats will fall into line behind him, even if they preferred a more aggressive candidate. It's getting to the GE that will be the challenge here.

um, wasn't Clinton's law license revoked? Would you want someone on SCOTUS who perjured himself?

I'm beginning to have my doubts that Obama can make it. He really needed a blitzkrieg quick kill. He needed to deliver the coup de grâce in NH, when Obama fever was high, the JFK comparisons were thick on the ground and the media was on side. Now it's going to be a long slog, and I'm pretty sure Clinton is going to be better at the long slog.

Bill Clinton Eligible Again to Practice Law -- 2006

having a former leader of the executive branch appointed to the highest court of the judicial branch? excuse me but i'm sure even the most sympathetic congress would block that nomination.

He's a convicted liar!

he's not William Howard Taft.

(who was made Chief Justice and had been campaigning for it his whole life, but whatever)

man, people really hate Bill Clinton.

guys, Clinton wants to travel the globe palling around with influential people and receiving adoring crowds/groupies. he does not want to be a supreme court justice. hillary theoretically might.

lots of young interns work for SCOTUS.

yeah i could see Hilary doing that.

they call them clerks Alfred