― zappi (joni), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link
As far as I can see no one is saying that you should, other than 'labour's duncan mcneil'
― Dave Amos, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Amos, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago) link
actually, i do know what you mean, neds are kind of anti-social but not necessarily involved in crime to the extent they could be seriously labelled 'criminals'.
― Dave Amos, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link
People who are playing the 'you don't know what you're talking about, you haven't lived it' card don't seem to all agree about what it means themselves, which is why I tend to find that card so lame in arguments.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:16 (twenty years ago) link
i suppose that some people get frustrated with being told they can't use certain words by people who know very little about the culture they're trying to defend (for example that it isn't a solely working class phenom)
― Dave Amos, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago) link
You're right of course but I only know what it means to me and the people I grew up with - I don't think I was even aware of the term until my early teens, which is when kids start taking their separate directions in life. You know, you become a "swat" because you're good in school, he said bitterly.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:28 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link
Really depressing.
― MikeB, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:47 (twenty years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:52 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:53 (twenty years ago) link
How do you think the working/middle (i.e. those above the criminal classes you mention) classes would react to vulnerable asylum seekers being put into "good" areas, with nice houses and gardens? The redtops would have a field day with that one. Those in Sighthill may be exhibiting a nimby mentality, but then again many the poor bastards don't even *have* back yards. It's a ridiculous area for anyone to have to live in, whether they're fleeing oppresion or not.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 29 May 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 29 May 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
N - I might be. I dunno - I'm not proud of labelling areas or classes like that but it's been something I've noticed considerably more in 25 years of living round here.
Is it really such a leap to imagine that coupled in with the desire to move out of said urban areas is an attempt to get away from black/Asian people as much as it is an attempt to get away from all those working classes they're trying to get away from. The difference being that in all these areas - Beckenham, Bromley, I'll throw Essex in here as well, are on the outskirts of cities, on the fringe of more working-class areas like Lewisham or Walthamstow or wherever.
These areas are populated, generally speaking, by people who have moved out from their closest area of London - largely working class, largely beneficiaries of Thatcherism. So an Asian family is a symptomatic of everything my straw man trying to get away from?
This isn't to discount the fact that there are racists in Dulwich, Blackheath or Hampstead, but I've never noticed it being quite so overt as I have in, say, Bromley, where I once had to run up the high street to get away from some racist twats who tried it in a pub.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 29 May 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
Should people feel a duty to fit into a neighbourhood? Are there 'nice' aspects of neighbourhood that rely on cultural homogenity?
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 30 May 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago) link
Poach Trisha from ITV and lock her in a windowless room full of clueless council estate scumbags
This cunt Brooker better pray he never runs into me - don't try it! But seriously, this kind of repulsive snobbishness seems acceptable among the "middle classes" these days, even in a liberal rag like the Guardian. Cunts.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 30 May 2004 07:43 (twenty years ago) link
Unite Against Fascism - organising a nationwide campaign against the BNP around the June 10 elections ... www.uaf.org.ukLove Music Hate Racism - gigs, raves, carnivals against racism and fascism ... www.lmhr.org.uk
ta
― lee b, Sunday, 30 May 2004 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 30 May 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 30 May 2004 12:17 (twenty years ago) link
As far as I'm aware, there is not such a surplus of accommodation in Milngavie.
― Madchen (Madchen), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link
Madchen, it's always amazed me just how urgently needed and desirable high-rise flats suddenly become, usually by people who've turned down similar housing, when asylum seekers move into them.
― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link
As for the Royal Mail delivering this crud, well that’s the biggest irony of all, if only they’d done that last time around!
― Plinky (Plinky), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Plinky (Plinky), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Stelfox and Mark C = perfect additions to a Calum thread
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Can we bump Carmody's "I was watching videos of black men being lynched the other day, and that happened to remind me of Stelfox" thread?
God I was a dick.
― Mark C, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, everything was overheated by then!
― Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:02 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exbnp-activist-recruiting-prisoners-to-join-alqaida-851592.html
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Saturday, 21 June 2008 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"If you can get someone that's so right-wing to be converted, then a normal prisoner is going to have absolutely no chance."
lololololololololololololol
― DG, Saturday, 21 June 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice to see some sympathy for the BNP upthread.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 June 2008 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Mark C, Friday, July 6, 2007 9:57 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link
lawl
― banriquit, Saturday, 21 June 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link
my local asshole threatens national asshole with death
― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link
How are these clowns doing in Barking btw? Anyone seen any polls on that constituency?
― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
According to...ahem...a Daily Mail article by Peter Oborne - "Local opinion polls show that BNP leader Nick Griffin stands an excellent chance of unseating veteran Labour MP Margaret Hodge". Don't know where he's getting his info from though.
― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link
... inside his head
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link